Afghanistan speech: Trump rejects ‘timetables,’ ups pressure on Pakistan, refocuses on ‘killing terrorists’

by Brooke Singman
August 22, 2017

President Trump outlined a comprehensive new strategy Monday night for achieving a “lasting peace” in Afghanistan – rejecting what he called “arbitrary timetables” for the U.S. troop presence, ratcheting up pressure on Pakistan to stop harboring militants and vowing to refocus the mission on “killing terrorists,” not nation-building.

“From now on, victory will have a clear definition: attacking our enemies, obliterating ISIS, crushing Al Qaeda, preventing the Taliban from taking over Afghanistan, and stopping mass terror attacks against America,” Trump said, in a primetime address to the nation.

The speech made clear he is keeping U.S. troops in the country – he said they will “fight to win” – and scrapping any consideration of a hasty withdrawal.

Speaking to servicemembers at Fort Myer, Va., though, Trump tried to draw a sharp distinction between his approach and that of his predecessors. Pointedly, the president vowed not to openly discuss troop numbers, withdrawal dates, or attack plans.

61 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • Roy Fredrichsen says:

    After numerous attempts at appeasement with Al Queida, Taliban , ISIS and North Korea, all have failed because the only thing those outlaws understand is overwhelming force. We will have to use OUR military to eliminate those murderous thugs that only believe in murder and destruction of civilization.

  • Tiger says:

    I served in Shield/Storm and this war, Army Combat Support nurse since 1988. I saw the sacrifice and the blood he spoke of. Finally we have a Real American President, who took the time to understand the situation in Afghanistan and listen to his military experts.

    We will win this one and anyone who does not understand that just like in WWII when we waited until Pearl Harbor and also we allowed millions to be slaughtered in camps, we waited again until there is a Christian Genocide and the UN had to admit it, we waited until everything we gained was lost, we waited until they are here, by the hundreds of thousands in our own country.

    Day late and hundreds of thousands of innocent lives short and now Iran capable of doing just what they have said, annihilate us soon as they get a nuke. Thank God that Trump came into office and I tell you this, when all comes out and he wins and keeps winning the Republicans can hang their heads in shame and they can go to Hell cause if they don’t re-elect Trump they are through.

    Savages and they need annihilating. Where are the Moderate Muslims whose religion was hijacked running to join the military? There are millions of them and only 5,000 in our military. Fool me…………..NEVER.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2HV_2A7x2M
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    1. donl says:

      Your posts should be on other sites as well, they say a lot more than others. Thank You.

      1. Tiger says:

        What a compliment thank you.

    2. Born in the South and proud says:

      Tiger, you nailed it on the head. One big thing I like about Trump is that he means what he says, Not like the last limp wristed boob that was in the white house. If he said anything you could bet he would find some one else to blame, Like the red line in the sand. The way it moved it must have been drawn using vanishing paint. Go get em President Trump we are 100 % behind you. Use what ever means necessary to rid the world of this scum, We had better be awake looking and alert because isis will look to purnish us.

      1. Tiger says:

        LOLOL love the remark on the red line. Trump is a great president and he caught the main media red lighted (handed) turning the cameras off during his speech in Arizona and pointed to them so thousands saw it, FAKE news in action. Not allowing their audiences to hear the truth and to know exactly what Trump said about Charlottesville.

        Also look at this article. Hungary getting rid of Soros organizations and others also in Europe. Look what our State Department did, told them not to and standing with Soros and the EU. Not what Trump has said. Not what he wants. I think Tillerson a snake.

        https://capitalresearch.org/article/u-s-state-department-goes-to-bat-for-george-soros-and-the-eu/

  • bobnstuff says:

    Somehow sending in 4000 troops is going to bring victory. History says he is wrong. I’m pretty sue his generals told him the same thing. The only way we could win is if we redefine winning. It’s one thing to not give out troop movements but unless he states a clear goal other then killing people there will be no win. Mr Trump, what will define a win, when can we leave and how much will it cost in lives and dollars? Just what is the over all goal here?

    1. Jose says:

      When did you seve? You sound like one of those “knows it all” because he has aced a war game on the computer and considers that the only way to win. If you are pretty “sue” but not “sure” about his generals, so “sue” them. LOL.

      1. bobnstuff says:

        You don’t need to serve to read history and understand how things are in the real world. I grow up in a military family, mostly officers. While you were talking sports we were talking military strategy. Have you seen what the generals are saying. As I say to win Trump will have to redefine what winning is. You will notice Trump didn’t talk about what are goal is other then to kill people.

        1. Jose says:

          You sound like a “when I grow up I want to be like daddy, uncle jim, aunt betty (those that actually served) but you were always too coward to serve. I served in the USMC for over 25 years and “I worked for a living”. Ask those that served what it means.

          1. bobnstuff says:

            I was rejected because I have bad knees, for some reason they thought that being able to march was important. My mother was relieved since I had two brothers serving already. So instead I stayed home built businesses and employed vets. No one that knows me has ever question my not serving, not even my Army Ranger father in law. I know that being i the USMC makes you an expert on all things military, just like a pizza delivery driver knows everything about Domino’s. I thank you for your service and in fact do respect those who protect our country. In fact I believe that I have more respect for you then our president does. Sending another 4000 troops into Afghanistan will just increase the number of body bags coming home. I don’t understand why a president would waste the lives of good men by sending to small a force to do to big a job. The term is over whelming force. Trump thinks he can do with 15,000 troops what 50,000 couldn’t do. You can’t fight a war on the cheap. Either you are all in or get out. Bush blow it back after 9/11 and Trump is doing it again only worse. Do you remember this is the same country that beat the USSR. Trump needs to either go big or go home. He can’t go big without the American people behind him so he would be best to go home. You say you served in the USMC, does what I’m saying make sense to you? My uncle sign orders for D Day, he didn’t send 4,000 that day and plan on seeing what would happen.

          2. Retired says:

            But you had no problem of being critical of Trump for having bad feet and not serving ??? No double standard with you Demon Rats is there ??? You seem to keep forgetting how Congress interferes with military actions because they feel the need to tell the military how to do their job and that is why we have not won any action since WW2 .

          3. bobnstuff says:

            What happened to his bone spur? They don’t just go away but they are easy to remove. He can’t remember which foot he had it on. Funny how that worked.

          4. Retired says:

            I got news for you they don’t go away and 90% of the time come back . You must have gone for your exam with a Dr. letter because at the time they did not pull you aside and take xray of the knees , still trying to BS people . I had bad feet since 16 until today and still passed me ,but did not have a Dr. letter .Did over 25 years with them and survived .

          5. bobnstuff says:

            I smashed my knee cap, put side presser on it and I hit the floor. They can fix it now but back then there wasn’t much that worked. So you had bad feet and got in but you will let Trump off the hook since his did seem to go away and not come back and only gave him problems at the draft board.

          6. Retired says:

            Look up how Spurs are treated today , years ago it was surgery but most times they come back . I have had one now for years that is different from bad feet of years age that is still there .

          7. bobnstuff says:

            So you know first hand about bone spurs. How has your tennis game been with a spur? Trump never seemed to be troubled by his. I even bet you know which foot it’s on. You can see my problem with his story.

          8. Retired says:

            You got it , follow the treatment and you can get back to normal , like I said look it up . Something You did not do . You must have been neighbors of Trump that you know everything like the experts . Didn’t know you lived in NY by Trump ????? Just a problem like your Knee jerker . You are a media guppy and help spread their hate .

          9. bobnstuff says:

            You have no idea who much reading I did on Trump, I wanted to like him but the deeper I got into his history the less I could vote for him. There are videos of him playing tennis at the time he said he had a bone spur. Even back then he loved the camera. His daddy get him a doctors excuse so he could stay home and work in the family business. From what I have read Fred Trump wasn’t a man you could say no too.
            https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kmQDERZ7kz0/V8chgz9h8uI/AAAAAAAALIU/1z0Cl0S1f2kaVV1UqkxtDf5KjHUAciAoACLcB/s1600/heel%2Bspurs.jpg

          10. Retired says:

            Yup ,you keep on proving what a media and Hillary Guppy you is !!!! You forget about all the Democrats that fell into that category ,just like yourself .

          11. Jose says:

            I originally sent this to “Retired” but want you to also see it since you believe being able to mach is unimportant. Old bulls___stuff is you.
            Old bulls__stuff sure makes up thing and excuses. His so called “military family never told him that “marching” through the jungle, desert, swamps, etc is part of being in the service so he did not know about what “marching” is really about. He believes it is being in dress uniform and “marching” in cermonies

          12. bobnstuff says:

            I said they though my being able to march was important. I never said it wasn’t. That being said if you pick your branch and figure out the system marching isn’t all that important. My one brothers only marching was to the mess in basic, that was it for four years in the Navy.

          13. Jose says:

            I know and that is why they always have us MARINES safeguarding them.

          14. bobnstuff says:

            I have a number of friends that are ex Marines so I will be nice. I wish our government would understand how much better the Marines are at safeguarding our assets and get rid of the hired guns they are now using to protect our foreign services.

          15. Jose says:

            I, too, will be nice about this. I do not know who your “ex Marines” friends are but among us real Marines, no one is an ex Marine only former Marine. Only ex wife is considered appropriate. Those that got out with a less than “honorable” discharge are considered as never had been a Marine.

          16. bobnstuff says:

            I stand corrected.

        2. Retired says:

          So your great officers discussed Military classified information with you just like Clinton did . Evidently you did not listen very well did you ??? Trump made it quite clear ,but it went over your head . .

          1. bobnstuff says:

            How to fight a wars isn’t classified. Now my brother who worked with Nukes said very little about his job.

          2. Retired says:

            Is that like the ocean is in Nevada ????

          3. bobnstuff says:

            He was Navy,He work on the Mark 45 anti-submarine torpedo, a.k.a. ASTOR, a submarine-launched wire-guided nuclear torpedo designed by the United States Navy for use against high-speed …
            This is about as much as he would say about it.

          4. Retired says:

            What subs was he on, Might have serviced it .

          5. bobnstuff says:

            He served on the USS L. Y. Spear a sub tender for two years, before that he was at Naval Weapons Station Seal Beach.

          6. Retired says:

            The Spears was not a sub , she replaced the Orion . So all he did was run the torpedo shop .

          7. bobnstuff says:

            No he just took torpedo’s apart and put them back together again. He was a non com. Of my family he’s the quiet one. In four years in the Navy he never had his chit pulled, and never stood a single major inspection. He never stood a watch he didn’t want to. He was good. In basic they offered him a place on the national honor guard but he decided to go to the school he had signed up for. He really enjoyed the Navy and the Navy like him. He never missed a promotion. On the day he was to re up he totaled his car ended up in the hospital for a week and missed his signing bonus. Had that not happened he would have been a lifer. The interesting thing was my fathers generation my family were all officers, my generation only produced one officers and my children’s generation no one has joined. My oldest son try but was turned down and as far as I know he was it. It’s not like we didn’t include the military when talking about what they could do with their lives. I would have been supportive had they chosen to serve. None of my cousins kids or my nieces or nephews served in the military. My oldest girl has been a Vista volunteer and my middle daughter works for Teach for America so I know they believe in serving their country. This is the first generation in the history of the country my family hasn’t had people in the military. I find it sad in a way.

          8. Retired says:

            What a line of BS you just posted !!!

        3. Born in the South and proud says:

          Why does Trump need to redefine any plans or action to the public. That just tells your enemy what you are going to do. That is something they do not need to know. I think he stated a great plan…. kill all the scumbags. That would be just like Reveria drawing troop locations in the sand. I guess he thought no one in Iraq had a TV Dumb butt that he is.

          1. bobnstuff says:

            Once again it looks like you don’t understand how everything works in the present fight against ISIS. You missed the reason for announcing the plan ahead of time. You see not all our allies have direct communications with us and we needed to put out a call to arms. It worked. You might also notice that we aren’t the ones doing the fighting and dying anymore, It’s the Iranians fighting for their own country. Do you miss those body bags?

      2. Retired says:

        Never served a day but he is a expert on the subject !!!

        1. Jose says:

          Old bulls__stuff sure makes up thing and excuses. His so called “military family never told him that “marching” through the jungle, desert, swamps, etc is part of being in the service so he did not know about what “marching” is really about. He believes it is being in dress uniform and “marching” in cermonies.

    2. Retired says:

      bobnbullshitsky strikes again . Where do you dig up the garbage you post What part of destroying the enemy don’t you understand ??? Now they have moved into the far east as well ,is that what you support ????

      1. bobnstuff says:

        Haven’t you bothered in your long life to look at how wars are won? Did you know there is a formula on the size of a force needed to control a population. If you go in under maned you lose. We did it in Vietnam, We did it in Afghanistan. We keep losing wars because we try to do them on the cheap. I hate war but I hate losing lives because of badly run wars even more. Do you understand what Trump thinks he is doing? As of today this is now Trumps war, I will remind you of this in the future when we have gotten nothing but body bags out of this move.

        1. Retired says:

          You are out dated and in the dark about war these days . The only reason nothing has been accomplished is because Congress tries to control Military actions instead of the Military .But you Democrats will never admit to that fact .You mean body bags like Clinton and Obama created ???? Trump is doing the right thing about letting the military do their job and not the pussyhat congress . How many of their hats do you own ????

          1. bobnstuff says:

            https://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/how-many-troops-to-secure-afghanistan/

            Read this, it tells a lot about what we did wrong. The Taliban defeated 115,000 Russian troops so just what will 15,000 troops do?

          2. Retired says:

            Like I said you are outdated on what can be done ,plus you read the left wing media

          3. bobnstuff says:

            So are you saying the Russians didn’t have 115,000 troops there? Do the Taliban have less the 30,000 people today. Just what has changed? If there is one rule in war, go large or go home. Anything less is just a waste of brave men’s lives.

          4. Retired says:

            Just like a true democrat you put words in other peoples mouth . Grow UP.

          5. bobnstuff says:

            No, you tell me how many Russian troops were there. These facts don’t change. Do you believe that 15,000 troops will make a difference? Answer the question.

          6. Retired says:

            I could care less what Russia did or the French for that matter , the USA is always the one cleaning up the mess others create and then congress f it up with their control games . Trump was quite clear with his speech and you did not like what he said ,like a typical Democrat .The Democrats have been whining since his speech so why would you be different ????

          7. bobnstuff says:

            So what went wrong this time, After all this time we are still in trouble. On day one we should have gone in at least 65,000 strong. Adding troops later hasn’t worked in the past so why would anyone believe it would have this time. It’s always better to have to much force then to little.

          8. Born in the South and proud says:

            Right on, thanks for your service my friend. One big difference between us and the Russians is that we have a whole bunch of new toys that Russia did not have at the time.

          9. Retired says:

            You are welcome . That is what the Lame Brains do not understand .

        2. Born in the South and proud says:

          The military did not lose Vietnam. It was a direct result of the meddeling by the idiots in congress and the rules They forced to be in place. It became a no win situation for the military. Just another case of stupid government interference Like the infamous rule in Korea that we couldn’t cross the 38th parallel .

          1. Retired says:

            You will never get though to the Rock heads with real facts , they are here to argue just for the sake of argument and then CLAIM to be a Republican on top of it .

          2. bobnstuff says:

            We lost Vietnam because we went in with a small force and increased it bit by bit giving the enemy time to adjust to the new force. Just like we did in Iraq. Now Trump is doing the same thing in Afghanistan.

  • le3845 says:

    Obama renewed and strengthened the communist and socialist threat in the U.S. It’s up to all of us to take it down by any means possible.

  • Shelly Shannon says:

    President Trump nailed it last night. If liberal democrats and moderates don’t get behind this plan then they will totally be responsible if ISIS or Alqueda attacts us. It’s bad enough that they are running around destroying national momuments and acting like ISIS sympathizers, but crushing the terrorists in Afganistan is something that should have been done 17 years ago. It’s time to stop trying to apease the enemy and pay them off.

    1. Patriot47 says:

      Libtards are against anything Trump says or does unless verbatim a libtard talking point. LSM already announced how horrible Trump’s speech was and called his plan disjointed.

      Seems like fighting communism has to start at home this time.

      1. mort_f says:

        Has the label ‘communism’ been replaced by ‘alt-left’? And Yes, alt-left include antifa, BLM, OWS, and not least, Obama’s new organization. Expect much of their funding is from one source in particular, a man who is wanted as a NAZI collaborator by two European countries. Need I be more specific?

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    2. Retired says:

      The liberals want to control everything that goes on .If they had their way ,you would have a meter on your toilet as to how often you flush .

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