Conservatives rebel against Trump-backed GOP healthcare plan

President Donald Trump on Tuesday endorsed Republican legislation to replace the Obamacare healthcare law but the measure faced a rebellion by conservative groups and lawmakers, complicating its chances for passage in the U.S. Congress.

Republican U.S. House of Representatives leaders on Monday unveiled legislation to do away with Obamacare, eliminating the requirement that most Americans obtain medical insurance and creating a system of tax credits to coax people to purchase private insurance on the open market.

Speaker Paul Ryan said he could guarantee that he had enough votes to win passage of the measure in the House, adding that conservatives should be excited about the plan to repeal and replace Democratic former President Barack Obama’s signature domestic policy achievement.

But conservatives slammed the proposal, with Republican Senator Mike Lee calling it “exactly the type of back-room dealing and rushed process that we criticized Democrats for.”

42 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • dmttbt says:

    I have an idea. Get government out of healthcare. If you want something good you sure as h don’t want the government taking a cut and that is exactly why they do not want to give it up. Let the doctors decide a program or go out of business.

  • Roy Fredrichsen says:

    I just wonder what the stubborn conservatives are going to do when O’Bama
    Care completely collapses. Last I heard most Insurance companies are bailing out of it left and right. In Arizona, the premiums have doubled and the other benefits costs has also increased. Not too many workers can afford it anymore.

  • dmttbt says:

    The establishment politicians on both sides of the isle are still in denial. They can’t believe that even with the cheating they did they still lost. The answer is that the american people voted against Trumps opposition. THe people in the news media still have not come to grips with what has happened. Now we have Trump in the white house but he is having trouble getting things done because now he is fighting the repubs and the demos. If we find a way to rid this country of those crooks, then we will have a chance at happiness and prosperity.

  • texexpatriate says:

    Only 17 percent of counties in America (500 plus counties) voted for
    Clinton. Eighty-three percent of counties in America (3000 plus counties) voted for Trump. Presidents, Senators, and Congress people are not chosen by the big cities but by the nation.

  • Whitelight32812 says:

    Trump better get his head out of his butt and tell Ryan to go pound sand, We want total REPEAL, we want the insurance industry fixed so that all people can afford to buy their own insurance. These people in DC could care less about what we need, they have theirs and we pay for it. It is way past time to pull these pathetic people out of office physically!!!

  • Murph68 says:

    Mike Lee is right, this plan is NOT a good replacement for Obamacare. Republican leadership is either entirely tone-deaf or they’re a bunch of cowards. Hopefully the freedom caucus will shut this plan down before it ever gets to Trump.

  • Tiger says:

    Let them own it the the mark of this beast be burned into their legacy and when the midterms come, “We the People”, ” The Movement” will remember them.

  • Ken says says:

    Paul Ryan IS and Elite Establishment Puppet – he supports Government and Insurance company control of Health Care = Control of the Citizens. He voted to FUND the unAffordable Care Act days after the 2014 elections. He also voted to FUND the Obama Executive Order to pay for the Illegal Immigrants.

  • Peter Pihun says:

    This new bill is a RINORYAN bill. It’s Obama lite. We want the entire bill repealed and start new.

  • Webb says:

    2010…We voted Republican and Won.
    2012…We voted Republican and Lost.
    2014…We voted Republican and Won.
    2016…We voted Republican and Won Big…
    After seven years of A Promised Repeal of ObamaCare…Here We Are?
    No excuses…Repeal Obamacare Entirely!!

  • John Lock says:

    The 2,400 pages of Obamacare [AVA] were written to be very very difficult to revise without putting millions off the insurance rolls? It is now a entitlement and a created right to healthcare. How do we get it done – not in one bill looks unlikely at present?

  • mudguy1 says:

    All this Ryan-Care bill is just spraying febreze on Obamacare. Once the fragrance is gone the s**t smell is still there.
    These Rino’s are no different than the Democrats.
    Ryan-Care will NOT make AMERICA GREAT AGIN.

  • Christian_Patriot7 says:

    What part of REPEAL do you idiots not understand!!

  • Carl F. Hall says:

    We will not be satisfied with anything less that a total repeal. What has been presented is not a repeal but a half-assed band aid.

  • Jean Langford M. says:


  • Terry T says:

    One of the goals for any health care system would be that 100% of US citizens have access to quality healthcare. This means that some percentage of the population will need to be subsidized. We already have a program to provide health care to citizens that cannot afford insurance – Medicaid. Why do we need Obama care or Ryan care; use the program we already have. Also, do not use the tax code and the IRS to provide the subsidies; we need to keep the tax code simple – quit using it to incentivize behavior.
    A second goal would be to keep the number of citizens requiring subsidized healthcare low; currently around 1 in 5 are in the Medicaid program, let’s reduce that to 5%. To accomplish that we need to reduce the cost of healthcare and improve the economy so that more citizens are employed with good salaries and can purchase their own insurance. The government should work on these two efforts and resist the temptation to run the health care and health insurance businesses.

    1. dmttbt says:

      Exactly and the trouble is we would not be having this conversation if the government had stayed the hell out of healthcare. They are in it for the money and control. Ask people who are from Canada how that healthcare system works. The honest ones will say that if you have enough money you will get care and if you don’t have a lot of money you go to the back of the bus.

  • Gordon558 says:

    Conservatives did not vote for patches to obamacare, we voted to get rid of it along with many other progressive ideas in government. Those Republicans who vote for this will suffer at the ballot box.

    1. I Seigel says:

      And the majority of voters didn’t vote for repeal either. They voted for Hillary, remember?

      1. mudguy1 says:

        But the majority of the states voted against Hillary.

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      2. Knowledge Transfer says:

        Wrong! 87% of the COUNTIES in the USA, corresponding more closely to the ELECTORAL COLLEGE, and a majority of the states voted for Trump. If you erase the votes for Trump and Clinton within the “People’s Republic of Colliefornia”, thus negating the largest Communist state in the Divided States of America, Trump won the so called popular vote by a super majority even with the remaining Communist states [New York;
        Illinois; New Jersey; Oregon; Colorado; Delaware; Hawaii; Maine; Maryland; Massachusetts; Minnesota; Nevada; New Hampshire; New Mexico; Rhode Island; Washington; Vermont; Virginia [Northern] 18 out of 50 in play.

        1. I Seigel says:

          Boy, you REALLY had to twist yourself into a knot to reach that kind of “logic”. HAH!!

          1. Knowledge Transfer says:

            Really! Find a stated fact that isn’t a fact air head! Stop looking into your intellectually insolvent mirror when you rifle off your fact-free fire, ready, aim falsehoods.

          2. I Seigel says:

            Really? Your “stated fact” is anything but. Try this one:
            “…thus negating the largest Communist state in the Divided States of America”. There is no FACT that you can find that says California is a Communist state. It’s an opinion. Just a dipshit’s opinion. Obviously you don’t know facts from opinions. Figures.

          3. Knowledge Transfer says:

            Wealth redistribution is Communism. From each according to their means to each according to their needs is Communism. One of your perverted sponsors Vladimir Lenin knew: “Socialized medicine is the keystone in the arch of the socialized state.” You are impervious to reason because you are historically deprived; intellectually insolvent; and academic anemic.

          4. I Seigel says:

            So by your pretzel logic, the U.S. is a Communist state. What do you think taxes and Social Security are? Wealth redistribution. Geez you’re an ideological moron.

          5. Knowledge Transfer says:

            The second plank of the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO is” A heavy progressive income tax”. BINGO! FDR who is famous for saying: “I see nothing wrong with the Communists in this country. Some of the best friends I have are Communists.” This Penthouse Bolshevik created the Social Insecurity System. When warned of its insecurity rich and robust pitfalls [which have proven prescient] he shrugged and smirked: “Don’t worry about it [social security] its just another tax.” BINGO!

          6. dmttbt says:

            That is true and the democrats are the ones who gave us social security and exempted themselves and the railroad workers and then the teachers from it. It was suppose to be so good they sure didn’t want it. Isn’t social security broke now? Oh that may have something to do with the immigrants can draw even if they didn’t pay in. Our government is our biggest and worst enemy.

          7. I Seigel says:

            What in the world are you blathering on about? Democrats “exempted” themselves from SS? Huh? Teachers exempt? Huh? Railroad workers? They are a vanishing breed, by the way. Like coal miners.

            Social Security “broke”? Not really. The funds could easily be replenished if the $125,000 cap on income raised. Why should people earning $500,000 a year or more pay the same SS tax as people making $125,000? And you know who else is paying into the SS system? Dreamers? Deport them, and you’ve lost all that income into the fund. Same with all undocumented workers, who pay into the system.

          8. dmttbt says:

            If you believe the undocumented workers pay a lot of taxes and social security you are out of your mind. If they pay any it is paid in under false social security numbers and goes either to the persons account who died 20 years ago or the government absorbs it like everything else.

          9. dmttbt says:

            Your answer is as socialist as the government taking over healthcare. Why is it acceptable to tax someone who makes 100,000 at a higher percentage than someone who makes 10,000? If you taxed all at the same percentage rate that would be an automatic increase in tax money. That would be more like what the progressive tax system was set up to be. That bull s hit about according to your ability and your needs is hog wash made up by crooks. That is not fair under any circumstance. You think people who make a lot of money should pay more and they would but not like you want.

          10. I Seigel says:

            You’re not getting it. Or you’re not listening. I didn’t say anything about tax rates. What I said was that there’s a cap on what is taxed by Social Security. Everyone pays the same rate, whether you make $50,000 per year or a $100,000 per year. But beyond – I think it’s $125,000 – there’s NO Social Security tax, so that’s a 0% rate. So people making $150,000 a year on up to millions a year only are taxed on the first $125,000. If they were taxed on ALL their income – at the same rate as everyone else – the Social Security system would have plenty of funds, and it would be a fairer system.

          11. dmttbt says:

            I am listening and as I have gotten older I would always fall short of the cut off point because they continue to raise it as we go forward. What I am saying is flat tax would be the most fair of any that has been suggested.
            In America where you can become wealthy by working hard and with intelligence, when you do become wealthy you are automatically a crook. People hate rich people and they think if someone is wealthy they should pay a bigger percentage than they do. That is ridiculous.

          12. I Seigel says:

            Let’s face it: there are plenty of people who have become wealthy WITHOUT working hard. Eric and Don Trump Jr, for example. What does “working hard” mean? Does the Iowa corn farmer work harder than a stockbroker working a phone or computer 6 hours a day? Do the guys and girls paving a road in South Carolina in August work harder than Tom Cruise? How many calories (work) does a soldier in Iraq expend versus an orthodontist?

            If a flat tax were in effect – say 15% as an example – then the hedge fund manager making 200 million a year would pay a hell of a lot more tax than the coal miner making $60,000. But he doesn’t.

      3. Ken says says:

        You must be referring to the “voters” that are beneficiaries of the Establishments freebies for everyone – but who pays?

      4. used_to_be_a_liberal says:


        1. texexpatriate says:

          Sorry, you are wrong. The majority of states voted for
          Trump. See my note above. Get educated.

      5. texexpatriate says:

        See my note above. Educate yourself.

      6. Carol Butler says:

        ++HILLARY WHO?

  • Not_Easily_Impressed says:

    This is not just Obamacare lite, it is WoRSE than status quo. Trump is deceived if the thinks this is a good thing. Ryan has been a RINO from the start. I never did trust him. Now it should be clear that Ryan is the Trojan horse.

  • TexRancher says:

    It’s a little early for the Republican elites to go against what We, The Voters elected them for. One in particular was the REPEAL of ObamaCare! Not fixing, not changing, but REPEAL, gone, deep sixed! Republicans had better start listening to us! ObamaCare is a piece of crap in any form! It was shoved down our throats and now we want it shoved back!

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