GOP preparing for contested convention

by Robert Costa and Tom Hamburger
December 11, 2015

Republican officials and leading figures in the party’s establishment are preparing for the possibility of a brokered convention as businessman Donald Trump continues to sit atop the polls in the GOP presidential race.

More than 20 of them convened Monday near the Capitol for a dinner held by Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, and the prospect of Trump nearing next year’s nominating convention in Cleveland with a significant number of delegates dominated the discussion, according to five people familiar with the meeting.

Weighing in on that scenario as Priebus and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) listened, several longtime Republican power brokers argued that if the controversial billionaire storms through the primaries, the party’s establishment must lay the groundwork for a floor fight in which the GOP’s mainstream wing could coalesce around an alternative, the people said.

130 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • tracymae says:

    They do not want Trump to interrupt their reign of power. They cannot control him because he doesn’t need their money or support. If the people select Trump, he should be the nominee, otherwise what the hell are we about?

  • Whitemanfromtown says:

    I’m so sick of these RINO pukes. Our government is teaming with individuals who sell us out at the drop of a hat. It’s all about them, I doubt more than a handful actually take their oath of office seriously and now we are supposed to put up with these scumbags like Priebus and his corporitists dictating who our candidate will be after we elect him to represent us? I recall the line about that Tree of Liberty needing to be watered…..

  • JB Wright says:

    Wow, we finally have someone running for president that cares what the people want and those who conspire to keep the machine oiled show who they really are. People who take the oath of office with no intention of keeping it should be systematically shot the hell up. I get the feeling that if “We the People” saw to it that these traitors died as a result of their evil ways, there would be less public servants willing to turn against the people.

  • gypsy314 says:

    I f Rinos do this I will not vote for a republican ever again. This would be a very bad for Republican party to allow this to happen.

  • SDofAZ says:

    No, these guys are arrogant asses!

  • Paula Sparks says:

    I agree with 7papa7. It is sickening that so many Republicans are traitors to their own constituents. Republicans should listen to the people and do what they were sent to do – that is the will of the people who elected them, not line their pockets with our taxes and turn their backs on us.

  • marlene.langert says:

    I shall stay onas a Republican andvote in the primaries. In the final election I get to vote for whomever I want. TO me that would be Trump, Carson or Cruz. If any of them pull away from the Republican Party, I can still choose for myself who to vote for. I think Trump, Carson or Cruz could still win as Independents. Let’s stay behimd them.

    1. Peatro Giorgio says:

      Marlene : I respect your suggestion however,remaining affiliated with any Establishment party is not the best laid plan. Independence ,sets your terms in concrete. If everyone who was serious about changing the course of our nation’s politic. Serious people would elect to become independent. Creating a deminished outlook for the party elites an the professional political class.
      Up an until 1996 I had been a loyal faithful Republican voter.That all changed having witnessed party elites over riding the base. An nominating their next in line choice . Establishment class stealing nominations . I’m 100% backing Ted Cruz however if Cruz Looses to Trump I’ll support Trump. If the power brokers an elites chose instead of supporting Trump an instead begin the process of a brokered convention an chose an establishment clown I shall Support a third party run with Trump.

      1. marlene.langert says:

        I mostly agree with you. In Maryland, where I live,only Dims and Republicans can vote in the primaries. That is why I plan to hold out until then. I have been a democrat my entire long life until Obama came in. Although we had voted Republican quite a few times. When Obama came in, I had to get out of the democrates. THe party was no longer what it used to be.

  • DEW says:

    Any silly stunt the GOP inacts to derail Trump will be the end of the GOP without doubt. These idiot RINO politicans are unboubtably ignorant on how ANGRY the people are and if they attempt this stunt it will be their demise !! What they don’t seem to understand is this is not THEIR election it’s the peoples of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and we will not tolerate their interference !!!!!

  • reagangs says:

    The problem is that most, if not all, GOP “leaders” are NOT leaders and are liberal, progressive RINOs. Michael Savage recommends that we start a Patriotic Constitutional Nationalist Party …. I say we already have one with the Tea Party.

  • Patriot47 says:

    No surprise here. I always said GOP would rather vote for Hitlery than Trump.

  • Fedup says:

    These billionaire king makers are afraid of Trump because they can’t control him to follow their agenda. These people backing this play are no better than our present administration. They have their own agenda, just like obama, and are not listening to what the voters want. If Trump gets the nomination and they don’t back him there will be no more Republican party. It’s time these politicians listen to the voters.

  • malcoolm1999 says:

    Go for it GOP. Absolutely no problem voting third party. Wife and I are about ready to dump GOP establishment anyway.

  • TexRancher says:

    These fools had better start listening to us or they will all be out to pasture! That goes especially to that traitor wimp McConnell! There is only one reason Trump is out in front and it is because he’s taking the stand that we, the people demand!

    Ryan, are you listening?

  • Dajjal says:

    United we stand, divided we fall. Remember Ross Perot? He guaranteed the election of Slick Willy. An independent Trump run will put Slick back in the White Hut.

    Only Trump, Cruz, Carson & Rubio have realistic chances of nomination. Trump has negatives to be exploited by the ‘crats. Rubio is a Rino And Carson is sinking.

    I would not be surprised to learn that Trump is running as a stalking horse for Clinton.

  • Robert R. Becker says:

    There are many Democrats that are starting to side with the Republicans because of people like Trump, Cruz, Rubio, etc.. Some are even thinking of changing their voter registration so as to be able to vote in the primary. Why should they change if it would be in vain? Maybe the party should really think this whole thing out before they end up chasing everyone away. Time is running out. It’s now or never to save our Freedoms and Country from going completely to HELL. LET THE PEOPLE DESIDE WHO THEY WANT TO DO THE JOB. WE THE PEOPLE – UNITED WE STAND.

  • Jerry says:

    The rats in the sewer do not like the exterminator.

  • I Seigel says:

    Must See TV! Love it, Love It, Love It!!!

  • used_to_be_a_liberal says:

    Those guys really are relying on lame old, same old ancient politics aren’t they. Even the guy that heads this thing, Reince Priebus, sounds like something from the days of Julius Caesar, Caligula, or Nero.

  • enubus says:

    If they try this, they are done as a party.

  • Dave In Arizona says:

    Let’s see. The so-called Establishment’s last two “selections” were big time losers: McCain, then Romney. Why not allow us Main Street Republicans pick the nominee?

  • don says:

    they can do as they wish–if they do try this to steal this at the convent. their will be no republican party that can not win anything–go for it you idiots

  • KDC says:

    The Est.Rep. Better watch out with this one, the people will coalesce against them and it’ll be all over for the cartel! Mitch McConnell, really?

  • SDofAZ says:

    Well, if they want a fight for the candidate selection other than the people’s choice, there obviously is a problem with the GOP. No choice means another party for the voters. We will ready for the third party. It has been an inevitable conclusion since this rino versus conservative split in the GOP. What seems to be the elephant in the room for the GOP party leadership is that their membership of registered republican voters is more conservative than rino. When they finally wake up, they will have the GOP rinos only, the conservatives who want change will follow Trump and hopefully Cruz will join him along with Carson. The GOP will loose but the new party can challenge the dems and win. There are enough of us.

  • dmttbt says:

    What is so contested about it? Trump is clearly the winner and why would they even consider someone else. They are going to cut their nose off to spite their face. But they will lose face if Trump gets to out them on their performance or lack there of.

    1. KDC says:

      Trump’s really are smart guy!

  • Swampfox1965 says:

    If establishment Republicans use shenanigans to thwart the people’s
    will during the Republican National Convention, a grass-roots write-in campaign
    will split the conservative vote and make the election a cake walk for Hillary
    or Bernie, and it will be the end of the Republican Party — and America as we
    know it.

    I realize it will be difficult for those arrogant SOBs, but the Republican leadership had better, just this once, listen to their constituents. If that leadership tries to shove Rubio down our throats with political trickery, they will be eternally sorry.

    1. dmttbt says:

      The only cake Hillary should be getting should be in prison.

      1. Swampfox1965 says:

        She’ll not make it prison because the Justice Department won’t appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate her serial crimes.

  • Philip Allen says:

    If Donald Trump gets the majority of the States in the Primary and they decide to pick another nominee to run for the President in 2016…This will be the Republican Party downfall If the majority of the States and People want Donald Trump to be the nominee for President and The Republican Party decides to ignore that and pick someone else at the Republican National Convention the Republican will be committing suicide.. The Republican Party needs to remember all Donald Trump has to do is run on a Third Party Ticket or as an Independent and the Republican Party will destroy itself. While Trump may not win if this happens…the Republican will not win either as they will be giving the election to the Democrats. Hopefully The Republican National Party Chairman Reince Priebus and the other running The Republican Party aren’t that stupid…but it sounds as if they might be, If this was to happen…not picking the frontrunner Donald Trump I probably never vote Republican again. In fact I don’t claim to be Republican at all. I’m a Tea-Party Conservative that tend to vote Republican. What we need is a third party and it could be called the Conservative Party or Tea-Party. Personally i’m tired of the Democrats and Republican Party ignoring the will of the People. People like John McCain, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham etc. have really hurt the Republican Party as they have ignored the will of the voter. Can’t they get it…This is why so many voters support Donald Trump as they have been lied to by the majority of the Republicans and it has been supported by the Republican Party. Need I Say More?

    1. Carol Burkhardt says:

      Problem is that there are A LOT of DIFFERENT groups who know that NEITHER party works for them. ANOTHER group who belongs to a 3rd party CONCEPT are those who are VERY…EXTREMELY fiscally conservative and VERY socially liberal! There’s currently no party for them either…and there are A LOT of them!

      1. Peatro Giorgio says:

        Actually Carol those you claim to be fiscal conservative social liberals are not liberal at all they are more often then not Fiscal conservative libertarian leaning. Meaning individual rights,with individual responsibility ,small government type. ( Think about it how can you reconcile Fiscal conservative with social liberal .) It doesn’t work if your liberal your choice is more government more government spending more government restriction on personal liberty.
        They like myself are Independent fiscal conservatives, with Libertarian leanings. NOT SOCIAL LIBERALS.

        1. Carol Burkhardt says:

          Interesting comment, Peatro Giorgia. But I’m unable to accept the libertarian policy on drugs. WHY would any clear-thinking sharp person want to cloud his thinking & behavior with drugs & alcohol? Maybe the correct label is “Fiscal conservative, social moderate?”

      2. dmttbt says:

        Gee, how complicated. Just vote for the person you choose and forget about an invitation to the party.

    2. KDC says:

      This is exactly why we all support Trump. Not because we’re afraid of the terrorists, which the media is saying about us. I’m so sick of the spin and being treated like we have no brains.

  • Phyllis says:

    At this point in time, if Trump ran as an Independent he would beat Hillary and whoever the RNC selects. The PEOPLE in this country are sick of the republican AND democrat leaders. “No man ever hated his own flesh”. So, whether you are a believer or not, the principle in that passage is true. People don’t want their children and grandchildren being massacred, on the streets, or in buildings, or their homes and labeled workplace violence, by jihadists, including the so called intellectual ones in DC. I hear as many democrats as republicans among the voters, they are afraid of what is coming and all want the present adm OUT, that doesn’t leave any room for Ms. Clinton to win either, regardless of the mainstream media spewing. Most of America is appalled at the persons running the country or pretending to, the horrid NY mayor, the Hollywood performers who think because they have been in or made a movie, that everyone will jump on their ‘medicine man bandwagon”.

    1. dmttbt says:

      The problem I have found is women saying they will vote for Hillary because it is time we had a woman president. That makes no sense at al especially when it means Hillary.

      1. SDofAZ says:

        True but I doubt seriously women will rally for Hillary at all except for the really dumb ones!

        1. KDC says:

          There’s quite a few of those.

          1. Bob2002 says:

            Yea, and they helped elect Obama, twice.

      2. KDC says:

        None to me either and I’m a woman.

      3. Leo Klaudi says:

        Thats the same phylosophy behind voting tor Obama because he was Black and it was time we elected a Black president. Look where that got us. Hey, big suprise, but Obama is only 6.5% black, he’s 50% white and 43.5 % Saudi Arab. The voters that voted for him for that reason got scammed! I know one thing he sure as hell loves muslims!

      4. don says:

        you need to listen else where

      5. Bob2002 says:

        Yea, Hillary (killer) is not the right woman to be president because she is evil, corrupt, incompetent, a socialist/communist, and only wants what will make her and Bill (the pervert) richer. If these women want a woman president, go find one that is not a Democrat because they are all bad for the country.

    2. Bob2002 says:

      I hope you are correct about Trump winning if he ran as an Independent, but do not want that to happen. He is going to have a hard enough time winning as the Republican nominee because of the RINO donors, the pro Democrat women who want a woman president, and the stupid welfare recipients who want the Democrats in in order for them to continue their welfare. The last two elections proved to me that Democrats will vote for a Democrat, no matter how bad of a job he is doing.

      1. Phyllis says:

        It has been a long time since anyone ran against both parties and it would be hard but if everyone in this country balked on the rep party and actively in their private lives spoke up for him, it might get their attention but I doubt it. What part of they are so dumb that they can’t see that the nation did not vote for Romney twice for numerous reasons. And I find it amazing that they would do this knowing he can’t win and that truly would hand Hillary the WH and I am sure they know that, so, who is lining their pockets on this?…and then, there is the ever popular electoral college. And, this move by the RNC makes one wonder if that is why Ryan, Romney’s running mate, made the deal that he couldn’t be fired from his position as Speaker? Would Romney appoint Paul Ryan as his running mate? As for Hillary, if this email situation happened to a republican they would already be in jail?

  • Phannesa says:

    That shows you why the dems have been winning! the spineless republicans are stupid. I am not contributing one cent to the Republican National Committee, unless they support Donald.

  • Sammy Joe says:

    Let them try it. I know if they are in the area I reside, their terms of serving the American people will forever be gone. The Republicans need to work together, what a bunch of longtime idiots! Time for them all to go. All promises broken, just read their records.

  • says:

    Of course they are. The establisment candidates are at the bottom of the pack and likely will not rise to the top. So, how can they force another “Democrat Lite” candidate on us. The one who again is the “Only Candidate that Can Win” but never does. A brokered convention takes the choice away from the party masses and puts the choice back with the Elites. How else can they give us their primary loser?

    I’m not so sure why they’re so scared at this point. The Republican primaries are rigged for Democrats to vote in them so they’re loser picks still have a shot once the caucuses start.

  • Leo Klaudi says:

    Looks like the traitors in the republican party are sowing their faces once more in trying to keep Trump from getting the nomination. They are conspiring to get a Democrat elected is what they’re doing just like they did in 1964. The pulled the same shit on Barry Goldwater. TRUMP is who the a lot of the Republican voters want. If the republican party leaders fore him out that will bring about the demise of the republican party.
    I think it is time to form a Constitutional Party of true constitutional conservatives and shove the Republican Party asdide into third party status.

    1. Phyllis says:

      And, running Hillary may be the downfall of the democrats too, as many dems are sick of this present adm and congress..strange turns of events at this time in history.

      1. KDC says:

        What happens with the electoral college though? BO has allowed so many illegals in, it will sway the vote. Under our Constitution all persons residing in a state are counted for the Electoral College purposes. Legal or not. Voters or not….all counted.
        The danger is NOT voting illegal, though bad enough, it’s packing the Electoral College!
        And, no matter what, If Texas becomes blue because of the anchor babies it’s all over for the Republican presidential aspirations. Just saying.

        1. Phyllis says:

          Illegal voting in this country is atrocious so volunteer as an inspector at the polls in your local community, but, i agree with you where the electorate college is concerned, note that I didn’t capitalize it, now is the time to make your point VERY clear to that so called college…another funny, was an article I read where Ms C told Ob to call his f…g dogs off. Who are the dogs? Is it possible things aren’t politics as usual..ALL of the political leeches want to maintain their stance and riches or their lives would be meaningless. They just don’t seem to understand that THEIR lives, truly are meaningless. Souls for Sale, doo dah.

      2. Bob2002 says:

        Phyllis, you are more optimistic than I because most Democrats I know will still vote for Hillary. Democrats historically do not vote for Republicans. It has only happened once in my lifetime and that was when Reagan won in 1980.

        1. Phyllis says:

          I agree, except some of them are starting to smarten up and realize when jihad comes, their children and grandchildren won’t be exempt from getting killed and that is what is leveling the field as Ms C has declared her support for anything that will get her the vote and she obviously, from the content of one of the emails, did not value the lives of the people at Benghazi…’No man ever hated his own flesh” and that applies to the children of the democrats..I just noticed that the county where I lived for years just went democrat again which it hasn’t been since Bill was in office and the first thing done was appoint some of the relatives of the politicians in office to comfortable jobs…but I still maintain that if these attacks from terrorists continue they will try to save their own cowardly lives.

    2. KDC says:

      I’m with you on that one! Constitutional party would be great,

      1. Leo Klaudi says:

        The problem is going to be getting the movement started. Too many people just aren’t interested in politics even though its strangling them. South Jersey is a hard place to get people to suipport a political idea. Too many folks are out of work, too many homeless people, businesses are still closing up and there are empty houses on neary every block. I’m 74 yo and
        this is the worse I ever seen it in all those years. I live in a small town in South Jersey and there are actually some people begging on street corners and in mall parking lots an this has been going on for over 3 years and it isn’t caused by climate change either! Its caused by callous politicians whose only concerns are getting reelected time & time again.

      2. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

        Yes but not in the middle of this race, wait until after Nov. 2016. Then do it.

  • bobnstuff says:

    I must be missing something here. The brokered convention means that no one got enough votes to win nomination, in other word Trump didn’t take it all. This isn’t a case of the RINO’s cheating, it’s a case of no one clearly winning. Thump is right in thinking that the party will choose one of it’s own over an outsider. The republican party today is a house divided and unless a Reagan shows up it is doomed to defeat at the hands of the Democrats. In a way it’s the conservatives fault for trying to push the moderates out of the party. They need the RINO’s votes if they want real power. Even if everyone that says they support Trump votes for him he still will not have enough votes to be nominated. The question is can Trump bully his way into the nomination?

    1. Peatro Giorgio says:


      1. bobnstuff says:

        You mean the RWNJ voting against the true Republican platform. It was the moderate republicans party first. It’s the Tea Party Conservative that are trying to take over the party and whining when the party fights back. If you don’t like the leaders of the party maybe you are in the wrong party. Lets face it Reagan would be to liberal for the Tea Party. As I said the republican party will not win unless the moderates vote with the conservatives which just isn’t going to happen.

        1. Peatro Giorgio says:

          Wrong ,Wrong you are burnout bob. The rinos took over the party beginning in the 1920 burnout bob Prior to that it was the conservative party burnout bob. Conservatives are those who’s principles gave us the emancipation Proclamation. Bob. You certainly know nothing of actual historical events Burnout bob. It’s the big government liberals of both parties that are destroying individual rights Burnout bob.

          1. bobnstuff says:

            You need to go back 20 more years to the progressive republicans. Your history is very limited. We haven’t had a tea party level conservative leader in the history of the republican party. It really makes no difference since the party is being destroyed by the conservatives and made unable to win a national election.

          2. Peatro Giorgio says:

            Well Burnout bob here’s some facts that you shall find detestible an undigestable 27% of the democratic party call themselves fiscal social conservatives. 22% of the Republican party call themselves fiscal social conaervatives. But wait wait for the Big one more then half of the Indendence also consider them selves either social or fiscal conservatives. With those numbers comes a rather large strong 3rd party. With more then sufficient numbers to win both the popular vote an the Electoral college. Inevitable destroying both establishment parties. Even if they were to merge. Chew on that one for a while burnout numbers don’t lie. Statistical rinos an progressives haven’t a shot in hell winning this time round. When combining Donald Trumps numbers with those of Ted Cruz, DR. CARSON AN CARLY FIRINO S THAT’S 66% OUTSIDERs ARE GOING TO CRUSH THE ESTABLISHMENTS . FACT IS THAT IS WHAT IS exactly NEEDED. One more point Bob What you call progressive republicans were actually Conservative republican. Not the same as the socialist progressive demo-rats.

          3. bobnstuff says:

            When a Democrat calls themselves a fiscal social conservative they mean they are moderate, Only 22% of the republicans are conservatives. It will be Hillary as our next president unless the republicans find another Reagan which is very unlikely.

          4. Peatro Giorgio says:

            Wrong again Burnout bob. . Example I live in a 2 mile square small town population 10,000 blue collar democratic 75% majority church going social fiscal conservative who voted for Reagan. Nothing moderate about these people. True conservative values. Again you aren’t even familiar with your own party. Just like the party establishments leadership you to discount facts not to your liking. I speak with these people at every opportunity, whether at town hall meetings or church socials. Many of them are leaning toward Trump ,Carson, or Cruz . They to are done with party politics . Get to know the real people those that vote each election cycle and those who stayed home the past two election cycles Burnout bob. Those that stayed home in the past had no choice just like myself during the last 2 general elections. I suspect both party establishments are on the road to self destruction. PRAISE GOD.

          5. bobnstuff says:

            I live in a republican stronghold. We haven’t elected a Democrat in my life time. Bush got 87% of the vote in 2004. I have held office in my local republican party so you might say I know republicans. Reagan was a moderate by modern standards.

          6. don says:

            so says you–WHO? you–o yea–old ate up

          7. don says:

            your ate up

    2. dmttbt says:

      Yes. If not he will win by write in vote. Watch the establishment take that away next. It would not surprise me at all.

  • Gary Vogt says:

    If the RNC does this the Republican party will be a thing of the past. And although my representative has done a fairly good job with his constituents
    I will do my best to see that he will lose his job. Called guilt by association.

  • Peatro Giorgio says:

    Well if the Republican power brokers choose to go for a brokered Convention then they are choosing to never again see the white house. I as a once total supporter of the Republican party we choose to vote independent as I’m sure many millions more will also do. You moron may then can say goodbye to the Republican base supporters. So go ahead be the out of touch morons you are. This coming to you from a Senator Ted Cruz Supporter. I’ll add this. If You Delegates choose that route. What you’ll find is not only shall you never see the white house again you may not ever be the magor party you are now. No control in the Senate no longer any control in the house. You shall be marginalized to minor party. A new 3rd party will rise out of the ashes of your idiocy. Think of it this way ,add up Trumps polling numbers with those of Ted Cruz,Ben Carson, Carly Firino . You idiots are now talking about 68 % of the base of the repub party leaving. Go for it you rino ,liar loving dogs.

  • Rich says:

    Trump is a dangerous man for the Rhinos and the RNC. He knows who will take money and how its done. If he is elected heads might roll. These guys are worried about jail time.

  • 7papa7 says:

    Talk about a bunch of hypocrites. They demand that Trump back the winner of the republican primaries but they will bail on Trump if he is the winner. If it is not time for a conservative third party then it never will be. The republican party is self destructing from within because power is more important to them than the country or the people they are suppose to be the employees of.

    1. John Doe says:

      Again, I couldn’t agree anymore. The old party establishment members of what used to be called conservatives or the GOP need to put out to pasture and left to graze They no longer represent their original party. They should also be imprisoned for trying to keep the Tea party out of becoming a third political party. Me thinks they’ve all sold us out.

      1. 7papa7 says:

        All of the establishment clowns need to go. They need to be replaced with young conservative men and women.

        1. John Doe says:

          I’m lovin Carly more and more every day, she’s more articulate than most if not all of the MSM GOP pool of candidates. Yes, she had her issues with HP, made mistakes like any other human being, but she’s decisive, isn’t afraid of making a concrete decision whether it’s right or wrong. And if I’m not mistaken, most of her decisions have erred on the side of making the right decision.Unfortunately for some out there, especially for those that used to work for her, they simply don’t understand how corporate AmeriKa works.

          1. 7papa7 says:

            For me she has made an unforgivable mistake when a very short time after 9/11 she came out talking about the “greatness” of muzzies. That shows me her judgement sucks. She is one that would definitely drive me to a third party candidate.

          2. John Doe says:

            I’m not familiar with that. Thanks, I’ll check it out. I just wish that the LIF (low information voters) had checked out the background on the worthless POS they elected prior to voting.

          3. 7papa7 says:

            That is for sure. Her comments were in relation to business but were totally inappropriate for the time.

          4. John Doe says:

            Thanks again for the update. I used to work for one of the world’s (former) top financial criminals in my opinion. Think Enron. I had my home based business essentially taken over, right after the days of the collapse. I have serious reason to believe he’s not dead, but living life very well in Paraguay. Not too hard to do when you’ve got that kind of coin, and just prior to federal indictments being handed down. You escape from one of your multi-million dollar homes in Aspen, have a friend of yours that’s a coroner from two counties away, declare you’re dead, no autopsy, private family services.

          5. 7papa7 says:

            Nothing would surprise me any more.

          6. HadEnough says:

            7papa7, Thank you, you have said exactly what I feel about Carly Fiorina. Besides her praising the muslims, she has said and done So Many things to show that she is so liberal. I wish people would wake up, become informed and research her. There is a very long list about her liberalism. She would drive me to a third party also. Another candidate that needs researching is Ben Carson.

          7. 7papa7 says:

            Agree, she did incredible damage to HP when she was there. She can’t be trusted. Thankfully she has fallen down where I think she is not even a legitimate contender. Ben Carson seems to be one of the nicest people in the world but I would not want him as president. He has said things that convince me he has no problem with big government or expanding the debt. Everyone should be thoroughly vetted. I have found my choice for president and that is Cruz. If Trump wins the nomination I could support him but that is about it. Anyone else says to me 3d party.

          8. DEW says:

            Nobody will accept her any more then clinton !!!

        2. HadEnough says:

          So True. They are an Abomination to the Republican Party.

          1. 7papa7 says:

            They absolutely are. They don’t care that they will probably bring down the republican party because of the hatred they have for Trump. If they go that rout then I think Trump would very probably go 3d party and if he does the republicans can throw in the towel. Trump would take from both dems and repubs and could very possibly win the election. I think many rebups would defect even if they were not Trump supporters because they want that which is fair. I know I am a Cruz supporter but I would vote for Trump if Cruz were not the nominee and Trump went 3d party.

          2. HadEnough says:

            7papa7, I agree with every word you said, except
            my first choice is Trump. Cruz is next. You are right about the establishment. They are double crossing, lying snakes. They work diligently to try and destroy a leading candidate (Trump) in their very own party??? They do not care what we the people want. I wish everybody would Stop giving them money, that would wake them up in a hurry. If we lose the election the fault will be ON THEIR HEADS.

          3. 7papa7 says:

            I agree with most everything Trump says. My problem is that he does not have a history of conservatism. Cruz on the other hand has a solid history of being a conservative. Trump’s history is pretty liberal even though everything he says now is very good. I just don’t know if he will follow through, Cruz has proven to follow through. He has whipped the gun grabbers at the SCOTUS level. He has the dems and repubs against him but he still stands strong on his principles. I would like to see maybe a Cruz/Trump ticket so that Trump can prove himself as a conservative.

          4. Judy McKinney says:

            I don’t think Trump would bother with VP. They can’t make many of the changes he could as Pres. And he would be too old to be pres. after 8 years of Cruz.

        3. DEW says:


          1. 7papa7 says:

            I expect that to happen in the very near future because things won’t change only get worse.

      2. HadEnough says:

        Agreed! See my post above.

    2. HadEnough says:

      7papa7, I agree 100%. Hypocrites is a mild description of them. The SCUMBAG GOP Establishment Snakes are the most Vile, Hideous, Maniacal, Sadistic, Nasty, Vindictive, Discriminating, Dirty Politics, Vitriolic, Evil, Corrupt, Vicious Worthless Human Excrement on earth. They Don’t Listen to what We the Voters want, they are so Narsisistic
      they think THEY are the ones who choose the Nominee, when it is we the voters who chose who we want. How dare they call themselves Conservative. They cause Damage and Destruction to the True Republican Conservatives. They should be Condemned, Hanged and Prosecuted for the Vicious Way that they Treat Trump. I guess you can guess how I feel about them. #$$%!!&&!!

      1. 7papa7 says:

        Sounds like you have a few minor problems with them. Just kidding, you are right, they are a disgrace and no difference than the democrats. They are driving me away from the republican party at an ever increasing speed. This is the last chance they have for me to stay and that is dependent if they do what is right in this election and nominate who we the people want.

        1. HadEnough says:

          7papa7, they drove me away from the Republican Party, too. I can’t get over it, in my mind the Elections should be a sacred, honest event, with we the voters choosing the candidates. But that is not what it’s become. Now we have cutthroat dirty politics. Now, we have the democrats cheating to win, (and getting away with it) We have our very own party playing dirty politics, conniving against our leading candidate that we chose. Our own party working viciously to bring him down, with Them choosing the candidate, instead of we the voters choosing. And It angers me, and it grieves me, because it shouldn’t be this way.

          1. 7papa7 says:

            I can not agree with you more. Politics use to be an honorable profession where men and women understood they worked for and answered to the people. This is no longer true, they think they are doing us a favor by acting like little dictators. The majority of them need to be thrown out on there butts. I am fortunate I have a pretty good congressman and one pretty good senator which is more than most have I believe. We need to get term limits on these people so that they know they will NOT become career and will start doing the best for the country and not themselves. I think it will also start bringing in a much higher quality of politician.

          2. HadEnough says:

            Absolutely agree. We do need to get term limits on these people. I have a wonderful congressman, (republican) And two lousy democrat senators.

          3. 7papa7 says:

            Each state must do this. You know that if it requires congress it will never happen. They aren’t going to vote themselves out of a job.

          4. HadEnough says:

            7papa7, yes they are a sorry bunch. We voted them in and then they betray us. We have very good leverage but they waste it. They are a ‘do nothing’ congress.

          5. 7papa7 says:

            The problem is that we rarely have a real choice what we have is the lesser of two evils and like most I am sick and tired of it.

          6. HadEnough says:

            7papa7, SO AM I.

          7. 7papa7 says:

            Great minds think alike.

  • VirgoVince says:

    WHY can’t the gop/rnc realize they’re committing SUICIDE?
    They are doomed to FAILURE!

    1. don says:

      well try this out–their more left than right so maybe they have desided to go with the democrats all the vway

      1. S. Wicks Jr says:

        You mean Bush isn’t a demoncrap. Sure seems to hold the same views as that party. TRUMP all the way. Time to waken up these fools…..

    2. HadEnough says:

      Serves the Devils Right.

    3. HadEnough says:

      Virgo, you are exactly right. I wish we could abolish them, and replace them with our very own Conservative, Honest Party with integrity.

  • skipsart says:

    We are on to them this time and so they’d better not try it.

    1. dmttbt says:

      I want to know why the Washington crowd of lawyers and prosecutors can’t seem to do a legal arrest on Hillary, Obama, and Kerry. they are definitely enemies of the people and have all committed crimes. If you are wondering about Kerry, just realize that he wants to be honored as the one who brokered the treaty with our enemy and under conditions that the American people can’t be told. What kind of bull is that? Oh yes I remember now,” I voted for it before I voted against it.”

      1. John Doe says:

        I don’t wonder a thing about John (treasonous) Kerry, Look at his Vietnam war record, research all the reports of the honorable veterans that served with him during his brief tour of duty, only to skate out after 6 months, obtain 3 Purple Hearts and more, through made up stuff, calling himself a hero. John (S)kerry is no hero.

      2. John Doe says:

        I don’t wonder a thing about John (treasonous) Kerry, Look at his Vietnam war record, research all the reports of the honorable veterans that served with him during his brief tour of duty, only to skate out after 6 months, obtain 3 Purple Hearts and more, through made up stuff, calling himself a hero. John (S)kerry is no hero.

  • Bob2002 says:

    Uh Oh, I smell some of the same lame brain things that tried to stop Barry Goldwater’s nomination many years ago. All that did was make some Republicans not vote for Goldwater. If Trump jumps and runs as an Independent Candidate, the Establishments deserve the results; which will ensure the election of Hillary and the Democrats. It is so stupid of these RINOs and their donors doing this crap and of course, they do not care.

    1. michael friend says:

      I will agree with you100%. The Rep. party need to get their act together and agree on their main agenda which is defeating that bitch Hellery. They need to stop acting like children and start acting like adults.

    2. michael friend says:

      I will agree with you100%. The Rep. party need to get their act together and agree on their main agenda which is defeating that bitch Hellery. They need to stop acting like children and start acting like adults.

      1. HadEnough says:

        Exactly !!

    3. Phannesa says:

      We need a third party that has the guts and wants a better America!

      1. dmttbt says:

        Actually we need 3 parties that will have guts and want a better America. That is almost like saying black lives matter and leaving the opening for white lives don’t. They all matter and we could do so well if we weren’t led by the corrupt.

      2. don says:

        what we need is WE the people to get off their asses

      3. Bob2002 says:

        I would agree if 1/2 of the members of this third Party came from the Democrats; otherwise, the Democrats would get elected every time there was an election.

    4. KDC says:

      Exactly, they are looking at themselves, not the constituency. They only care about their precious GOP corporation.

      1. don says:

        they have made it very clear by the way they vote they like the ways things are -an all they want is same power an control

    5. don says:

      they are more left than right makes a world of sense what they want to do

    6. used_to_be_a_liberal says:

      If Trump did run as an independent, and with the mood this country is in right now, it could be plausible, possible, granted not very likely, that he could win the presidency, but then he would have to “dictate” via executive order, which he might have to do anyway, even if elected the regular way.

    7. HadEnough says:

      Bob2002, I agree with you 100%. The establishment is stupid. They are blindly working to be defeated, serves them right.

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