HEALTH BILL IN LIMBO GOP: Pols fall short on ObamaCare replacement

by FOXNews.com
March 23, 2017

House Republicans’ ObamaCare replacement plan was in peril early Thursday after lengthy leadership and committee meetings failed to produce an agreement that would shore up support among conservative members.

“We have not cut the deal yet,” said House Rules Committee Chairman Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas. The committee spent 13 hours in session Wednesday without setting up a formal rule governing debate on the health care bill, which had been expected to be voted on by the full House Thursday.

Sessions said he suspected that House Republicans would try to agree on a path forward for the bill when they meet in conference Thursday morning.

The Rules Committee, usually tightly controlled by GOP leadership, had been expected to let the chamber vote on revisions that top Republicans concocted to win votes. These include adding federal aid for older people and protecting upstate New York counties — but not Democratic-run New York City — from repaying the state billions of dollars for Medicaid costs.

44 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • Roy Fredrichsen says:

    You haven’t seen what is coming up later. The Democrats won a “great victory” for the moment. Next comes a lowering tax bill and the Democrats will lose their filibuster and the health bill will re-emerge in a slightly different form and will pass leaving the Democrats with egg on their face.

  • NOUNBELIEVER says:

    not a repeal bill…more stink from the establishment RHINOs…more entitlements, more midclass assaults…more tax cuts for the richest people in the world…not a damn thing to lower costs…nothing to stop the rising costs…government would make Heaven into Hell during one day !

  • The Redhawk says:

    OH HELL….. Do NOTHING let the Obama care EXPRESS DERAIL IN FLAMES in 2017….take the rest of the Year to have a SOLID REplacement and I bet that the Schumckie and Air heads of the (D) ANARCHY PARTY BEG FOR A REPLACEMENT PLAN in 2018 before NOV … they’ll vote for anything just to get it off their backs!!!

  • Ken says says:

    Trump SAID REPEAL and he won the election – repeal is not bandaids on ObamaCare and changing the name to RINO Ryan Health Care. Keep your campaign promise Trump or just let Obamacare implode and die.

  • Tiger says:

    Trump will not be held responsible for this as some say, it will not be a failure for him you can’t get milk from a bull. Trump can’t write law, he has to depend on Congress, he can lead them, tell them what he wants, encourage them to do his bidding for the good of the people but Ryan is a RINO his plan filled with payoffs to insurance companies, billions left for the illegal health and much more. Amendments were being made last night and if this isn’t done then it is Ryan and the Republicans who will pay.

    The bull at the head of the party didn’t give no milk cause he can’t.

    1. leaningtotheleft says:

      But he sure will take credit if it works and blame someone else when it fails

      1. The Redhawk says:

        NO more that BHOZO (the head of the (D) nazi party) or Pelosi or the SENATE CLOWN who NEED to LOOK @ 2018 for FEWER SEATS is Senate and House????Oh I forget they BLAME RUSSIA,,,YEAH that is IT!!

    2. The Redhawk says:

      AGREE…..Let the OCRAP Care IMPLODE as it is doing and let the (D) MORONS OWN IT!!!!

      1. Tiger says:

        I agree let it go Trump and keep on trucking.

        1. The Redhawk says:

          It’ll DRIVE the (D) Anarchists mORONS to their KNEES

          1. Tiger says:

            Hey he didn’t want to do this, he wanted to let it implode then do something. Well now O care imploding. Those idiots can choke on it then it is going to be up to the Republicans again. There ya have it.

          2. The Redhawk says:

            So ON to TAX REFORM, The WAll and JOBS creations….I bet the DUMBOCRATS will REACH for a working SOLUTION on O CARE!!!

          3. Tiger says:

            Amen the old have SS, Disability, Medicare and Medicaid. The poor have the ER and all county and state clinics for care, which no matter if insurance a dollar a month they would bother buying it.

          4. The Redhawk says:

            AND….The (D) Anarchists Still oWN the Derailing Train wreck 100000% ….No matter what the PRESSTITUTES say the CLOWN and the AIR HEAD and their MORONS OWN the “FLAMER”….. The HOUSE mUST combine part 1 and 3 nad Present it to AMERICANS in Claer TERMS so that the Anarchists cannot Spin more LIES ,,, let HHS Eliminae the OBAMA TAXES on HC nad LET the (D) Anarchists VOTE it Down this time nad They’ll go down in Flames in 2018…..bUT the gOP mUST Resist either Canadian or British ” ONE PAYER SYSTEM’ which is what the LOONS are ALL ABOUT

          5. Tiger says:

            Funny you should bring up Canada, just finished my walk before starting on my classes and I spoke with my Canadian neighbors. They left early last year cause the gentleman came down with something and they had to go home. This led us to a conversation on medical care. First thing they said was how awful that so many Americans will be without any healthcare. I explained it to them like we have been talking and they said OH nobody explains it that way. Then I gave them the example of our little rural area, the bus comes to pick-up people for appointments and takes them into the town to the different state and county run medical centers. Women also get free care before and after having free babies. The babies then get free care and free food and money from the state monthly. I told them their neighbor down from them, a good man, not much education, worked hard and still does, had open heart surgery by the best docs and a few years later had brain surgery all free. We convinced him to apply for disability finally, he just kept on working. They were stunned.

            So turns out in Canada every Province the people are taxed to pay for the insurance that all get. They have their docs and their clinics and their hospitals they have to go to. So the old guy had to wait weeks for an appointment cause there just wasn’t anyone available. Then they found something in his blood work and that took weeks and weeks before he finally got another appointment with an Oncologist and now still waiting to find out what is going on. So imagine if this man would have had a fast growing caner, he would be dead. Of course in Canada, as in other countries with national healthcare there are Private docs with Private clinics and that is where the money goes. The Free Market and competition across state lines the only anser. Plus this nonsense about single men paying for women’s health, birth control and maternity leave is out thank God after O care collapses.

          6. The Redhawk says:

            IN the 70-8o’s I used to be in Detroit for business at laest 7 times a year and kep seeing Canadian Traffic coming across the Windsor Bridge in Heavy Style…..My Zone Manager drove me several times to Follow many Canadian Plates parking by Dr Offices or /and US Hospitals….Need More be SAID???

          7. Tiger says:

            Amen and I also visited Detroit and saw this.

          8. The Redhawk says:

            IF only (D) Anarchy Party Morons and BERNIE Sanders MUST BE TAKEN TO DETROIT ….but they probably miss the reality without getting a Free GPS to Find their buried heads

          9. Tiger says:

            My Canadian neighbors complaining about all the illegals and Muslims running into their country they want borders and walls now.

          10. The Redhawk says:

            They Elected their WHITE OBAMA….What can they Expect???

          11. Tiger says:

            They blame it on the college idiots.

          12. The Redhawk says:

            Sounds like what happened HERE in 2008….So are Canadians College Grads OUT OF WORK this SOON?

          13. Tiger says:

            You know I remember the Cong saying they knew they lost the war but when they saw the college students protesting they just waited it out, then we had the Killing Fields.

            Same in Canada but in the U.S. the Silent Majority came out and voted.

          14. The Redhawk says:

            Just recently No Vietnam came out to say that US forces had Decimated the Viet Cong BUT the US Press , CBS, and Sisters kept LYING about the US Losing…

            Cronkite, etc… nightly ‘Sold” those lies and LBJ was Unable to Overcome them…

          15. Tiger says:

            I know Nam Vets trained us for Shield/Storm, they really opened up to us and told us things that were very troubling, they were left wondering around in the jungles, many lost from their units it was like some nightmare they lived through.

            Then they told us at the end of the war they refused to take a hill or whatever without air power first going in. The entire war was on the leaders in this country and the blood of all those men I hope, chokes them in their dreams at night.

          16. The Redhawk says:

            Well HISTORY is repeating with the PRESSTITUTES of MSM , and (D) Anarchists of CLOWNS and AIR Heads Goose Stepping to the LOSERS anthem agaon

          17. Tiger says:

            Take a look at what O gave refugees we need to drain that swamp.

            Refugee access to welfare on the same basis as a U.S. citizen has made the program a global magnet.

            The federal programs available to them include:

            ∙ Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) formerly known as AFDC

            ∙ Medicaid

            ∙ Food Stamps

            ∙ Public Housing

            ∙ Supplemental Security Income (SSI)

            ∙ Social Security Disability Insurance

            ∙ Administration on Developmental Disabilities (ADD) (direct services only)

            ∙ Child Care and Development Fund

            ∙ Independent Living Program

            ∙ Job Opportunities for Low Income Individuals (JOLI)

            ∙ Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)

            ∙ Postsecondary Education Loans and Grants

            ∙ Refugee Assistance Programs

            ∙ Title IV Foster Care and Adoption Assistance Payments (if parents are ⌠qualified immigrants – refugees, asylees, etc)

            ∙ Title XX Social Services Block Grant Funds

            17. Welfare use is staggering among refugees. Welfare usage is
            never counted by officials as part of the cost of the program. Yet, when
            it is included, the total cost of the refugee program soars to at least
            10-20 billion a year.

            As some Americans are pushed off of time-limited welfare programs
            many refugees are going on to life-time cash assistance programs. For
            instance, 12.7% of refugees are on SSI – a lifetime entitlement to a
            monthly check / Medicaid for elderly or disabled. This rate of usage is
            at least 4 times higher than the rate of usage for SSI among the
            native-born population and is reportedly rising from these already very
            high levels.

            Permanent and intergenerational welfare dependence has been allowed to take hold to a significant degree in some refugee groups.

            Find latest welfare usage among refugees here (latest data available is from 2009): https://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/orr/fy_2009_annual_report_to_congress.pdf

  • metheoldsarge says:

    The promise to repeal and replace Obamacare was one of the highlights of Trump’s campaign. It was second only to the building of the border wall. He promised to repeal! Not repair! I believe a lot of the votes for Trump were the result of that promise.

    It looks like the establishment RINOs are willing to cut off their noses to spite their faces. I believe they couldn’t care less about the wishes of the people they were elected to serve. I think they care more about this “$” in their pockets. They keep playing these games as if they actually want to lose both houses next year and the White House by 2020. The watered down doctored up Obamacare bill that RINO Ryan and his fellow RINOs are pushing, looks like a quick fix throw together band-aid. It has RINO fingerprints all over it.

    If the GOP sincerely wanted to repeal Obamacare and bring in something new, they had since November to work on it. They obviously didn’t. What happened to the alternative to Obamacare the Republicans claimed to have had back in 2009? I am beginning to suspect that was a lie.

    If the RINO Bill passes and Trump signs it, we could have the first broken promise. A lot of voters are not going to be happy. Trump and many Republicans can kiss reelection good-by. The Democrats will retake the Congress next year and the White House in 2020.

  • Ted Crawford says:

    Absolutely astonishing!!! The “Freedom(?????)” Caucus seems stubbornly determined to honor the Republican Hallmark, of stealing abject defeat from the very jaws of victory, despite all the odds against it!
    This cadre of clowns seems comprised mainly of simple morons, with a healthy dose of adolescent petulant idealists, and a smattering of idiotic anarchists!

    1. Webb says:

      The promise was Repeal ObamaCare Entirely…

      1. Ted Crawford says:

        As stated; Adolescent, petulant idealists!
        “Give us EXACTLY what we want!!! OR, we’ll blow our own heads off, to prove we are serious!!”
        That’ll work!! NOT!!!

      2. The Redhawk says:

        REPEAL YES.. and let it IMPLODE …..As it is on its way .. by Repealing all it is done is to STOP it after 2018 since it ‘ll take that long to actually Replace it
        Meanwhile HHS can strat Eliminating many of its Taxes and 1200 IRS Employees … as a :MESSAGE to the (D) Anarchists

  • Ramon1710 . says:

    “Trump Says GOP Must Pass Health Bill or Risk Losing Seats”
    Greater are the odds that not repealing the whole mess, as promised, will get people fed up with their GOP liars. We need those with backbone to stop capitulating to democrats and RINO losers like DcConnell, Ryan, DcCain, Thad Cockroach, and the rest of those fed by the hand of George “Nazi Collaborator” Soros.

    1. mudguy1 says:

      I would say repeal Obamacare 100% now or risk losing the Senate in 2018 and the House and White House in 2020.
      “Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us”
      “Fool us a third time and you will our support”
      J https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0d68524b43fe0a1ceadc7cd8c87dbf9c221d26e3f02ebcc819f8f295b0ba4f3.jpg UST DO IT

  • Deb Sunshine Hanna says:

    There was no problem when the democrats pushed obamacare down our throats. We didn’t even know what was in it til it was passed. The democrats didn’t even bother to read it then. All this BS the democrats are saying about this bill is pure BS. People are being misled as usual by the democrats. There is nothing affordable about the healthcare that is in place now. I need medical insurance badly, but cannot afford it. Piss on the democrats and their crap. They need to just shut up and stop misleading the people.

    1. leaningtotheleft says:

      Do you have a clue what Thump is offering EXCEPT that his rich pricks of friends are going to get richer at the expense of the middle and lower class. And I hope that you lose your Obamacare

      1. SueJer says:

        Under obummer the elite class got larger, and the little guy got smaller!

        1. Ramon1710 . says:

          To be expected from Soetoro the communist…the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears.

      2. Webb says:

        Proof…of the rich getting richer!

        1. leaningtotheleft says:

          Simple, if you eliminate the tax increases that were scheduled to take effect and lower existing taxes for the extremely wealthy they end up with even more money. And it increases the national debt which is all the “conservatives” don’t want so guess who is left to make up the shortfall. And I don’t want to hear any more trickle down your leg economics like the last wer gonna make Amarila grate agin a hole actor /president gave us

    2. Dee says:

      True Deb , but we were told this mess obumacare would be REPEALED and REPLACED ! These morons like Paul Ryan pushing this Crap of a replacement does not cut it . This too I have to say is very upsetting for me that Trump and Pence would even back this . Trump needs to listen to the American people and hear we Do Not Want this !! Go back to what ins was before and open state lines period !

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      2. Roy Fredrichsen says:

        It was my understanding that the NEW plan would absorb all the patients now on O’Bama Care and lower the premiums on coverage.Since Trump has withdrawn their plan, they will work the “bugs” out while O’Bama Care disintegrates and then present a polished plan ready to roll.

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