IRS head confirms investigators have found backup tapes in Lerner probe

July 24, 2014

The head of the IRS confirmed Wednesday that investigators looking into missing emails from ex-agency official Lois Lerner have found and are reviewing “backup tapes” — despite earlier IRS claims that the tapes had been recycled.

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen, testifying before a House oversight subcommittee, stressed that he does not know “how they found them” or “whether there’s anything on them or not.” But he said the inspector general’s office advised him the investigators are reviewing tapes to see if they contain any “recoverable” material.

The revelation is significant because the IRS claimed, when the agency first told Congress about the missing emails, that backup tapes “no longer exist because they have been recycled.”

It is unclear whether the tapes in IG custody contain any Lerner emails, but Koskinen said investigators are now checking.

Republicans on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee first raised questions about the backup tapes on Monday, releasing a partial transcript from an interview with IRS official Thomas Kane. In it, Kane said “there is an issue” as to whether all the backup tapes were destroyed. Asked if they might still exist, he said he didn’t know but “it’s an issue that’s being looked at.”

57 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • peter says:

    Thanks for the diatribe of liberal bullshit.

    1. I Seigel says:

      You need to read his post again, carefully. If there’s one thing CforUS is NOT, it’s a liberal.

  • Fed UP says:

    This administration is in learn as you go mode. They’ve gotten rid of all the experienced people and appointed like minded liberal nut cases in top positions. Problem is their finding out that every thing they do backfires and then they either backpedal, Blame Bush, Cover-up or outright lie to the poor ole stupid citizenry and we’re supposed to be too dumb to figure it out. I don’t know how you feel but I think the Sh!t is getting pretty deep.

  • Average Joe says:

    There wount be any of LL’s emails on them AFTER they get done examining them. There will only blank spot’s. Sort of like the Nixon tape’s

  • ConstitutionalCourier says:

    Now for as long as it took them to find the backup tapes, what are the odds that the information has not be modified or damaging evidence erased. These people are just devious, corrupt and beyond description I can honesty write here without be totally crass.

  • Liberty says:

    Years ago, my four-year-old was a better liar. “I didn’t see myself do it.”

  • aurora9 says:

    If they find that these records are not incriminating, then I would suspect that they have been manipulated, fraudulently made and replaced, after the fact.

    1. I Seigel says:

      Nice! Guilty until proven innocent. Oh wait, just forget the trial and the proof. Just make it GUILTY!

      1. sharonhansen209 says:

        We are considered guilty nowadays until proven guilty. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

        1. I Seigel says:

          After considering your statement, I realize there’s some truth to it, and I agree. Sad, isn’t it?

      2. guest says:

        You sir are a moron – it’s people like yourself that is the reason the fake in the white house is still there – hasn’t he and his minions done enough for you VA, IRS, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Green jobs that only befitted his backers , shovel ready jobs that spent close to a trillion dollars – for what – could go on but your intelligent level wouldn’t be able to comprehend – why don’t you crawl back to the Democratic Rock you crawled out from under – oh guess I need to apologize it’s your right to your opinion.

        1. I Seigel says:

          This story is about IRS emails. It has nothing to do with Benghazi or the VA or any of your other bla bla ranting.

          If you want to go that route, how about looking at the number of people who have died in your conspiracy-laden nightmares. Unfortunately, there were 4 people that died in Benghazi. I believe there were a few agents killed in F&F?

          Compare that with how Bush did – thousands in the WTC, thousands in Iraq, hundreds in Afghanistan. Kind of brings a little prospective, doesn’t it??

          Plus the hundreds of thousands of people who lost their life savings and homes when the banking system and the mortgage lenders imploded.

          Bad stuff happens all the time. Your insistence on blaming Obama is laughable.

          But notice I didn’t call you a moron.

  • Silver Bullet says:

    How long do you think the IRS has been used to ‘spy’ on innocent Americans? Probably as long as it has been in existence. Referendum on the 28th Amendment would go far towards fixing some stuff. Plus TERM LIMITS! Congress nor the President can keep us from demanding a referendum on these issues. If they attempted to do so, they would go out with the dishwater and I dont think the American public would wait for the next election to get rid of them.

    1. I Seigel says:

      Talk about “spying”, you do realize that one of the main repositories of IRS information is in Utah, conveniently located so the Mormons can access the tithing requirements of their churchmembers. Among other things. I believe the NSA also has a big facility there.

      1. Silver Bullet says:

        Had a pal, Mormon, from my hometown in Georgia, went to work for the Govt in Utah. He was a hacker paid to break into the Govt computers looking for vulnerabilities. He now has distanced himself from the Mormons and the Govt!!!

        1. I Seigel says:

          He must have discovered some pretty scary stuff!

          1. Silver Bullet says:

            He spent some time with my son last visit back home. I will see what I can find out.

  • PJ says:

    Here kitty kitty….Looks as if Kitty Lerner is about to lose her tail!

  • gendotte says:

    Good. Now you right wing assholes will see that she was doing her job.

    1. Silver Bullet says:

      Nobody said she wasnt doing her job. She was just too engaged in extracurriculars which ARE AGAINST THE LAW!

  • Dwight Mart says:

    They should not be the ones reviewing them! This should be done by the federal judge!!! How else will we know we know they are not destroying the most damming evidence?

    1. Silver Bullet says:

      THEY SHOULD ALL BE PUT ONLINE! So they dont dissappear again and the taxpayers, her real bosses, can decide once and for all what her fate should be.

  • regulus30 says:

    Let’s not forget this is the bunch in charge of collecting the penalties for NOT HAVING OBAMATAX/CARE;; they are going to have access to YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, how scary is that………………

  • dranalog says:

    I’m willing to bet no incriminating evidence will be found, and then it will be used as evidence that ‘not even a smidgen’ of corruption exists.

  • Richard Menius says:

    Now who would have guessed they were all lying. What a surprise from this crooked administration. The worst in my lifetime and I’m 70 years of age.

  • gary says:

    If 10% is good enough for church, why does the IRS want more to waste, besides it was Never voted upon by the people Income Tax

  • lawman says:

    I would also like to see a flat tax. That way everyone pays their fair share.

  • peter says:

    toodumtu. The best solution I agree but the IRS has got to go first and foremost.

  • john says:

    They better hurry up and print these out before obama and lerner erase them just like they did with the other copies.

  • Dwimby says:

    This man is insufferable and he runs the IRS. What in the hell is wrong with us. Why is this administration still there?

  • Diana Sawyer says:

    I would like to know how the IRS gets bonuses they are not a privately held company they shouldn’t be getting any bonuses

    1. dave ussery says:

      Agreed Dianna, I worked all of my life-hard physical work–the only bonus I EVER got was MAYBE a weeks vacation _____ unpaid of course!

    2. Sam says:

      Since technically the IRS works for US the taxpayers; why don’t we get to approve their raises. When was the last SS raises or payment to vets?

      1. Bill says:

        The IRS, federal bureaucrats are like Congress, they vote themselves a raise off the wage earners/ US citizens back (citizens hard work for income). There must be a movement to STOP this self induced pay raise from ALL Federal employees, except the military, and let the US citizens decide if Congress or the IRS, etc. do a good job to deserve a pay increase.

      2. gendotte says:

        January 2014

      3. guest says:

        It isn’t just the IRS – the VA got bonus’s to create schemes that caused the death of many of our veterans – they made things look better by pulling up the vets that were at the end of the line and this showed the lag time for veterans appointments to appear they actually were waiting shorter times – these individuals once identified should be charged with murder – what about the raises our congress votes themselves – when the economy is doing well – a raise is in order but it should not be voted on by the ones to receive it – when the economy is bad , there should be no raise – their raise should reflect the same raise they give our elderly on Social Security

    3. anglelou says:

      Not to long ago it was reported that the IRS was “missing” money – I believe it was in the billions. Money unaccounted for? The same was reported from the State Department – I think under Hitlery’s stint as Sec. of State???

  • Harvey817 says:

    Wonder what will happen if these investigators work for the IRS? Congress has let these IRS criminal ALS make a mockery of them! Give them enough time and all evidence will be destroyed! Lois is very smart and has thumbed her nose at congress and the American people! Put her as I jail.

  • tullmargaret says:

    they re giuilty as sin

    1. Sam says:

      NO, they ARE SIN. This is the obamy team doing their best to destroy the USA!

  • junkmailbin says:

    every it of item that is found at the irs needs o be seized on the spot and reviewed by another INDEPENDENT GROUP. Any one there wo has destroyed any item that did or does contain information requested needs a prison sentence and loss of all benefits.

    1. dave ussery says:

      Hell why not just post em to the web? make all available to the general public- I guarantee Odipshit would be tossed out on his sorry ass immediately!!!! (if not sooner)

  • kyrunner says:

    The question now have the actual emails been delegated from these files? The IRS is so corrupt and now is the time to bring them down a few pegs.

    1. Sam says:

      Gee. doesn’t the IRS have back-up tapes stored in a vault under lock and key. Seems strange that any government document can be just destroyed at whim. Oh, I forgot; this is the obamy administration and demoncraps don’t have to keep any logs of past doings……

  • peter says:

    The IRS is guilty as sin and there is no doubt. You get rid of e-mails intentionally, not accidentally. The best solution is to get rid of the IRS totally and impose a flat tax so that at least one government agency isn’t corrupt anymore. And then you continue with other government agencies.

    1. Toodumtu says:

      I agree except for “flat tax”. A flat tax plan followes the present IRS plan too closely. The Fair Tax Act is much better and the most fair of all three plans.

    2. CforUS says:

      Guilty of what so far? Guilty of lying to congress? (in this administration it’s not considered illegal to anyone in the executive branch). Guilty of destroying evidence? (see statement above). Guilty of lying under oath in Federal Court? (not yet, but they are magically finding evidence so they don’t get convicted of committing perjury in a forum
      they don’t/can’t control). My question is this, can a Federal Judge order
      a third party to take control of IT assets in the IRS to oversee any and all
      storage medium? The political appointee’s at the IRS seem to have too much control right now, but the ominous thing is they couldn’t get away with it if there weren’t full time federal employees willing to go along with the fraud. The Hatch Act should take care of this. If I had anything to say to a Republican about to take office in 2016 is; instruct your new IRS Commissioner to say to your staff “if you’ve been involved in political activities under the previous administration, I’m coming for your job unless you report the activities immediately to the IRS OIG.” How many employees would immediately “retire” after a statement like that?

      1. regulus30 says:

        as my mother always said; “a NEW BROOM SWEEPS CLEAN”.

      2. guest says:

        In My opinion – one of two things appears to be happening – either Lerner is being thrown to the dogs to get the heat off the white house or the tapes will not reflect anything incriminating – they have had plenty of time to doctor the tapes – there is nothing I would put past the current administration

    3. says:

      That sure would be Great! But there are to many CROOKED Bastar4s with their fingers in the pie!

    4. Liberty says:

      And take away their law enforcement capabilities. For example, in some states Fish and Game does its own entrapment undercover work so it can charge another schmuck with outlandish and heavy charges. Then allow a plea bargain with extravagant fines to their “enforcement” account.

  • ed28 says:

    This is indicative off the level of incompetence and ineptitude which are the hallmark accomplishments of the Obama Presidency. This is exactly what happens when inexperience appoints utter inexperience as CZARS.

    1. Harvey817 says:

      I respectfully disagree with you on Lois’ part. She is very smart and thought she had told everyone to destroy the evidence. She knows exactly what was happening and was the ring leader at the IRS. Now as for other appointed people that have no real world working experience are incompetent as anyone can be. Some of his anointed ones are Muslims and members of the brotherhood. It is hard to fight a war when your enemies are within our own government with high level security clearances! We have a mudslime domestic terrorist as our so called leader!

      1. ed28 says:

        “thought she had told everyone to destroy the evidence” — If she were so smart, she would never have put anything in email to begin with because she would know that you can’t destroy or hide anything in this digital age.

        1. BeautifulAmerica says:

          The answer? Arrogance.

      2. ed28 says:

        I agree that the fox is in the hen house. Hard to shoot the fox without killing a few hens. We just need to get the nads to accept we’re going to kill some hens.

    2. CTH says:

      Inexperience, incompetence and ineptitude are probably the least of their shortcomings, maybe inconsequential compared to their intention to destroy our country.

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