Ryan: Bloodbath If GOP Fails to Pass Health Care Legislation

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Sunday said he agrees with President Trump that 2018 will be a “bloodbath” for Republicans if Congress does not pass legislation repealing and replacing ObamaCare.

“I do believe that if we don’t keep our word to the people who sent us here, yeah,” Ryan told CBS News’s “Face the Nation,” when asked if he agreed with Trump’s reported comments about the 2018 midterm elections.

According to a CNN report last week, Trump told Republican House members in a meeting that 2018 would be a “bloodbath” if they fail to pass healthcare legislation.

65 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • snowyriver says:

    Wait a minute.. Government controlled health-care is one BIG step towards Socialism.

  • Howard A Milor Jr. says:

    There will be a bloodbath if the Turn Ciat Ryan’s plan is passed!
    What part of repeal and replace don’t you understand Ryan?

  • Bob says:

    Ryan, the good little Catholic boy from Cheese country, is lined up to take Health Care coverage from millions, and will ultimately kill THOUSANDS in order to fatten the coffers of his rich Insurance Industry chums. Wouldn’t be surprised if Pope Francis ex-communicates the Scumbag! He never really was a true Catholic, anyway, the PHONY CLOWN!!!

  • exoticdoc2 says:

    Ryan is nothing but a worthless closet liberal. Get rid of him. The gummint should be out of health care, given they screw up everything they get their grubby little mitts on. Gummint intervention in things is a loser liberal answer to any and everything. The gummint needs to stick to the essentials such as military, roads and the like, and be kept as small as possible. Unelected, unaccountable bureaucracies are the bane of the US and many other gummints.

  • CharlieSeattle says:

    Let’s vote out the e/GOP RINO’s …..regardless of this vote.

    RINO Paul Ryan re-elected 2016
    RINO Mitch McConnell re-elected 2016
    RINO John McCain re-elected 2016
    RINO Roy Blunt re-elected 2016
    RINO Lamar Alexander re-elected 2014
    RINO Lindsey Graham re-elected 2014
    RINO Thad Cochran re-elected 2014
    RINO Orrin Hatch re-elected 2012
    RINO Bob Corker re-elected 2012
    RINO Ben Sasse elected 2014

    I know I missed a few others.

    Ironically, most RINO seats saved by Trumps election, most likely voted for Hillary Clinton!

  • CharlieSeattle says:

    Yes, 8 years was long enough to craft a replacement bill but the e/GOP RINO’s never thought Trump would be elected. That is why nothing was ready.

    Hell, most of them voted for Hillary!!

    1. Retired says:

      The big problem is the Media and lobbyist F___ everything up . Lobbyist control our elected with Campaign funding .

      1. CharlieSeattle says:

        Simple, ban union and corporate campaign financing. Repeal Citizens United for starters.

        1. Retired says:

          The list could be a mile long of all the obstruction orginisations .

  • CharlieSeattle says:

    GOP HEALTHCARE PLAN COULD ALLOW ILLEGAL ALIENS TO ACCESS TAX CREDITS

    https://www.numbersusa.com/news/gop-healthcare-plan-could-allow-illegal-aliens-access-tax-credits

    GOP Healthcare Plan Would Allow Illegal Aliens to Get Tax Credits — Tell Congress to Close the Loophole!

    ……..Dear activists,

    On Monday night, GOP Leaders unveiled a plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). Unfortunately, the legislation, as introduced, would allow illegal aliens to access taxpayer-funded benefits.

    NumbersUSA takes no position on the healthcare issue in general. But we do oppose taxpayer benefits going to illegal aliens.

    Under Obamacare, as many as 500,000 illegal aliens were able to obtain healthcare subsidies, amounting to $750 million, according to a 2015 Senate report, even though the law specifically excludes them from accessing the subsidies.

    At best, the GOP healthcare plan would keep the same failed verification process from the Affordable Care Act in place. But our Capitol Hill team is hearing from multiple contacts that the plan may not have a verification process at all to keep illegal aliens from accessing the plans tax credits.

  • CharlieSeattle says:

    OBAMACARE 2.0 IS A GIFT TO ILLEGALS. OH, AND GOP? YOU LIE.

    By: Daniel Horowitz — March 07, 2017

    conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/obamacare-2-point-0-is-a-gift-to-illegals-oh-and-gop-you-lie

    One of the most memorable moments of Obama’s presidency was when Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C. (D, 65%) could no longer contain his anger as the president touted his signature health care legislation before a joint session of Congress. When Obama promised that illegal aliens would not be able to access the subsidies, Wilson shouted, “You lie!”

    Sadly, eight years later, Paul Ryan, R-Wis. (F, 51%) and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. (F, 40%) are well on their way to tweaking Obamacare and owning it for themselves under the stratagem of calling it “repeal and replace.” Now it appears that we might need Joe Wilson to direct his truth bomb at his own party. If nothing is done, Obamacare 2.0 will contain the same verification provisions as the original version that have enabled illegal aliens engaging in identity fraud to access the subsidies.

    On page 37 of the draft legislation released by the Committee on Ways and Means, the bill calls for the use of the same verification methods as spelled out in sections 1411 and 1412 of ..…Obamacare!

    Obamacare was based on verification provisions passed in the Democrats’ 2009 SCHIP bill, which required verification of citizenship but NOT identity. During the Obamacare debate, our side constantly said using the SCHIP provisions would encourage identity fraud and could qualify illegal immigrants for subsidies.

    However, this bill would make the situation even worse than Obamacare. Although Obamacare didn’t require photo ID and fingerprints to verify identity, it did harness the Department of Homeland Security’s Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) database. Thus, officials were at least able to check immigration status against Social Security numbers.

    The problem with this bill is that because it tweaks Obamacare and creates a new massive entitlement system through the budget reconciliation process, it cannot have the statutory effect of mandating HHS and IRS work with Citizenship and Immigration Services to use the SAVE database because that issue is outside the jurisdiction of the reporting committees. And no subject matter from other committees can be included in reconciliation.

    Thus, to pass Obamacare 2.0 instead of plain repeal via budget reconciliation, Republicans must use weaker verification language.

  • Richard I Ellis says:

    This piece of CRAP made up by RYAN AND MCCONNELL ARE ONLY A REVISION OF BOZO CARE! IT IS NOW RYAN CARE! WE, THE FOLKS, THAT VOTED YOU ALL IN ORDERED YOU TO SCRAP BOZO CARE AND START OVER BUT YOU STINKING INSURANCE AND DRUG COMPANY RATS ARE STILL SCREWING THE FOLKS!! COME 2020 YOUR ASS’S WILL BE OUT AGAIN FOR EVER ON THIS BOGUS CRAP YOU ARE TRYING TO HAND OUT!

  • justinwachin says:

    2018 could turn out to be a bloodbath for Republicans if they enact a bad health care reform bill. My problem isn’t the name on the bill but the content of the bill. The Republicans need to come up with a simple free market approach to health care. Remodeling Obamacare is a bad idea.

  • John Lock says:

    Ted Cruz finds a method to put down the 60 vote rule? So, the Democrats have zero power.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0853cde682b7e46ba7bd4256934e9c7c81173ac5e06c4fb04e172a3e33bd36c6.jpg

    1. The Redhawk says:

      He probably will get in TROUBLE with RINOS

  • Webb says:

    Ryan…“I do believe that if we don’t keep our word to the people who sent us here, yeah” …
    Keeping your word is Repeal Obamacare Entirely…Nothing More!
    Seven years of political promises, for god’s sake, at least keep this one!
    Or lose votes in 2018…

    1. The Redhawk says:

      Bulls Eye Webb……Somehow We Got To get the Message to these ELECTED CLOWNS!!!

      1. Webb says:

        Redhawk…
        I have wore out the keys on My Keyboard sending e/mails to my Reps and Others…Gowdy, Wilson and Tim Scott and sent Graham 6 e/mails…he has a hard time with a message!
        Along with Ryan, McConnell and Others…
        Since 2010, we were promised total repeal, not replace, for once I would like to see a political Promise…Kept!!
        I am not heartless to the poor or low income but they could have put them into Medicaid at the start of Obamacare…
        And left working America alone.

        1. The Redhawk says:

          Webb I have done same…. I am convinced mail gets into “ROUND FILES” based on Return address , e-mail same unless from District or State they are from and then if you ask for apples they respond in JACKASS language….Phone calls get NOT passed on…WHO NEEDS THEM …?? THEY NEED US at Election times and that is WHEN we can Render them UNEMPLOYED

          1. Webb says:

            Hey…So true.
            Graham is the worse, same letter, same language on any request for Information…
            But Tim Scott… will reply on subject every time and by the way… his office staff person even called me once on an e/mail concerning Obamacare!
            He gets my vote every time…

          2. The Redhawk says:

            Tim Scott is a GOOD MAN….Mildred Graham should GO!
            I have same issue with McConnell & my Congressman… But I got to see them and Let them know!!! No screams just STRONG QUIET TALK Man To Man….Got “GLAZED OVER” Political “pu$$y” BS response…VOTE EM ALL OUT!!!

  • The Redhawk says:

    Memo to PAUL Ryan, Pelosi, Mc Connell and the Senate CLOWN UPCHUCK;
    ” Obama care is in a death Spiral, the USA thanks to Politiccs of DIVISIONS is also in a death Spiral ‘ So either you IDIOTS get together on GOVERNING for the Good of the WHOLE Country not just Coastal enclaves and Fly Over land or Face the consequences that Trump brought up Clear and Dear in 2016……The Two Party System you have SCREWED UP is IN A DEATH SPIRAL….. 46% of Americans are becoming INDEPENDENTS ,,,,, The balance spllt between the TWO DYING Parties area MINORITY!!!!!!!!
    NOW STOP acting like JACKASSES AND GROW UP…. Fix HC, get Tax Reform done…FIX POT HOLES, BRIDGES and RUNWAYS, Fix the FAILING EDUCATION SYSTEM, CREATE GOOD PAYING JOBS, and do MAJOR HOUSE CLEANINGS in the QUALITY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM BOTH PARTIES….WE HAVE TOO MANY IDIOTS IN ELECTED OFFICE from BOTH SIDES!!!!! “

    1. podunk1 says:

      Well said!

      1. The Redhawk says:

        Thank you…Why are the PRESSTITUTES IGNORING these ISSUES>>>??

        1. Retired says:

          CAMPAIGN MONEY FROM THE LOBBYIST .

        2. podunk1 says:

          RINOs & Maoist democrats keep them out of jail & employed with fake news.
          .

    2. Retired says:

      Right , but you left out the Biggest Problem . LOBBYIST.

  • CrustyOldGeezer says:

    ryan will be happy with a ‘bloodbath’ ONLY IF the republicans lose control of congress.

    He is lost when people look to him for direction because the ‘leader gene’ has been scrubbed out of his pool generations ago.

    Now he takes directions on “how to lead” from democrats.

    He never should have been retained in ANY leadership role in congress.

    IF Trump has people working behind the scenes and quietly now, by the midterms ryan will be primaried OUT, along with the rest of the RINOs, and when the ‘disgruntled’ voters go to the polls they will be able to complete the job of getting LOSERS OUT of the Republican party.

    1. The Redhawk says:

      They , BOTH Parties have Become ONE big FOOKED UP PARTY of Professional Political “hores!!!

      1. CrustyOldGeezer says:

        Americans, across the boards or race, religion and political philosophies have seen the destruction of this Nation under the liberals and RINOs that they are ready for a better government.

        Trump, in less than 2 months has illuminated a path, to a better future.

        If he is able to find and PROSECUTE the leaks, stay with Twitter to bypass the corrupt media, by the midterms the VOTERS will know the failures that is liberalism and reject any return to that philosophy.

        1. The Redhawk says:

          Trump IS ON THE JOB….CONGRESS BETTER TAKE A LESSON … OR …

  • DrBillLemoine says:

    The real ‘fix’ for Obamacare isn’t repeal and replace. It’s rework the financial support mechanism that provides subsidies to subscribers, supports states with Medicaid grants, and entices multiple insurers into every state and locality. All the provisions of service are desirable–no pre-existing conditions, insure young adults on parental policies, no caps on coverage, no hospital revolving doors for patients and more–and should be maintained. It’s the universality of the program that’s in question, something Republicans don’t want to enact. No universal coverage, no increases in federal subsidies and support for insurers; in other words no federal money to keep healthcare costs reasonable. It’s an impossible hill to climb for conservatives and the cheapskate Freedom Caucus. Time for Democrats to dig in and provide the solution whereas the majority is frozen, irresponsible, ideologically driven and stuck in the mud. With Republicans split, Democrats can insure ACA with a plan they can all support as the valid ‘replacement’.

    1. Webb says:

      The Democrats had their chance at Healthcare…It failed.
      Lies and cover up…
      It should be Repealed entirely and no longer handled by Government.

      1. The Redhawk says:

        and keep Governmnet OUT of HC other than Medicare ….Let States based on needs and Individual facilities manage MEDICAID but NO HC for Illegals … Obama care was Predicted to FAIL and it IS! Typical of EVERYTHING that the O DUMBO administration has “successfully” failed at

        1. DrBillLemoine says:

          Helloooooo? Medicaid is the federal money that helps states take care of sick people and balance budgets. It’s not going away if you ask governors.
          Medicare is not going away either as a long-time promise to workers who paid life long taxes to remain healthy in retirement. BTW social security and medicare are available only to long-term workers (40 quarters, minimum) so employers who hire illegals are the problem you see.
          Actually Obamacare is wildly successful as healthcare; it’s the financial underpinnings that need fixing, and was blocked by republicans in congress. The rest of your smear is also wrong unless you like corruption-free government.

          1. Retired says:

            As usual spreading Bullshitsky again, you support the corrupt government with the crap you write . You are the Dr. of brain washing .

          2. NM Leon says:

            His PhDumbschitte shows through.

          3. NM Leon says:

            Stop parroting the libtard talking points, BB. Obozocare was a schitte sandwich on the day it was passed and it still is. You idiots can try to put all the ketchup on it you want, but it will just be a schitte sandwich with ketchup on it.

      2. DrBillLemoine says:

        Actually subscribers, although not House Republican regulars, like the provisions of ACA. It’s the post 2010 passage of the law, the Republican blocking that has failed to improve the financial part of the law. Repeal isn’t fixing a good thing. The current replacement ignores the roots of the problems–because conservatives are cheapskates first and don’t want a national program but are forced to keep it or kill citizens who vote for them, and also they reject universal healthcare as a right of citizens and want to devise ways to eventually eliminate an ‘entitlement’. So, Trump supporters want ACA retained, unlike the ultra-right under Sen. Paul and the cheapskates under Ryan. It’s a failure of conservative thinking to try eliminating a needed national program.

        1. Webb says:

          A bankrupt nation can’t support itself…
          Repeal is the thing…period.

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            Nations don’t go bankrupt–a bogus fear. Are you afraid Trump won’t produce jobs???

          2. Helland says:

            You might want to read some world HISTORY concerning that “..don’t go bankrupt…” before using that line again.

          3. DrBillLemoine says:

            World History covers a lot. Care to focus your thinking. Have you considered my qualifications on the bankruptcy statement?

          4. Helland says:

            Then focus on my remark. Bankruptcy. Multiple gov’ts amd empires have failed due to bankruptcy..financial and otherwise.

          5. DrBillLemoine says:

            Your context for ‘bankruptcy’ was financial, re the federal debt, wasn’t it? Why are you shifting the definition to ‘otherwise’? What nations with American status have gone bankrupt?

          6. NM Leon says:

            I doubt that you as a math challenged person have any qualifications,

          7. NM Leon says:

            “Nations don’t go bankrupt”

            That’s technically true in a VERY narrow legalistic sense. Nations don’t file for legal bankruptcy protection, but they certainly default on debt which is the national equivalent. I know you are math/arithmetic challenged, so maybe a little education for you is in order (not too complex for your feeble mind I hope).

            http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2016/02/22/countries_dont_go_bankrupt_the_20th_century_proves_otherwise_102014.html

          8. Retired says:

            The Dr. of bull can’t understand that concept.

          9. NM Leon says:

            Bullschitte Billy

          10. Retired says:

            That name does not even phase him , Typical Troll with blinders on .

        2. NM Leon says:

          There’s no fixing a schitte sandwich.

    2. NM Leon says:

      What a crock. Obozo and the Dems made a schitte sandwich. Many of us ran the numbers from day one and saw that it was not financially self sustaining (actuarially sound). It was never meant to be a functional plan, it was always meant to fail, the assumption being that single payer would be the fix.

      Why should I pay for the HIV treatment for a drug addict? Why should I have to pay for the lung cancer of a lifelong smoker?

      Do you want to be in the same auto insurance risk pool as the guy who has had multiple DUIs? Do you want to be in the same auto insurance risk pool as the guy who waits until he has an accident to join?

      Health insurance is no more a “right” than car insurance.

  • Denny says:

    That means a FREE MARKET solution, not RyanCare you piece of crap.
    Most of these scum have sold their souls to their big money donors. As long as it’s a Government solution, it will not be a Free Market solution.

    Keep the Government out of our Healthcare!

    1. Shirleygirl says:

      Exactly! Trump promised to get rid of Obamacare not replace it with Obamacare Lite or 2.0. Ryan is worthless and needs to be voted out!

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    2. The Redhawk says:

      SHORT EASY to UNDERSTAND but neither party of the UNITED PARTY OF PROFESSIONAL ‘HORES is willing to to GET IT DONE!!!

      GOOD POINT Denny

      1. Retired says:

        The biggest [ hores ] are the lobbyist feeding the politicians .They are to blame for the health care problems.

        1. The Redhawk says:

          One and the Same….Relatives of current Elected ‘HORES OR Retired Double Dipping Political ‘Hores ……tHe Society of ‘HORES in Full Display are in the LOBBY CLUB!!!

          1. Retired says:

            In the 50s WDC was already known as the biggest horehouse in the US , it is like a gigantic barn full many square miles big.

          2. The Redhawk says:

            I was there in the 60’s out of Quantico… same thing nothing Changed!!! “hores that were Elected and Street walkers for “hire1!

    3. Mike Thomas says:

      Why can’t we have the same health care they have and should they not then let them have the health care they think we should have.
      They have forgot they are called Civil Servants hired by U.S.

      1. Denny says:

        I have repeatedly written and called my representatives demanding they shouldn’t be receiving Platinum retirement and healthcare on the backs of the taxpayers. That’s not to mention earning 4 times the average citizens’ wages while working a third as much. Of course it falls on deaf ears!

        You can bet if they had the same healthcare as we, it would have been fixed a long time ago. It’s the double standard thing, in their minds, they are “Better” than us so deserve better.

        Don’t believe it? Just ask them, they’ll tell you!

        The Elitest mindset is killing this country! Just a bunch of pigs gorging themselves at the taxpayers’ trough!

    4. Teapartier says:

      Agreed. They were sent to congress years ago to rid us of Obamacare and did nothing. Let us have a free market to lower cost not CofC directed care. The big businesses who helped with cost want to shift the burden to government And we all know how government runs things. If the economy or any business(medicine is a business not a right). Goes in the tank it is government through regulations or favoritism that destroys. Difficult to find anything positive it has done in the market.

    5. Retired says:

      The biggest blood bath will be against those opposing Trump. Time to recall McCain .

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