Sen. Cotton to House Republicans: ‘Start Over’ on Health Care

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) is calling on House Republicans to withdraw the Obamacare 2.0 bill, the American Health Care Act, that House Speaker Paul Ryan put forward and “start over.”

The strong words from Cotton–including the comparison of the process that Ryan has been pushing to the efforts now House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi used to push Obamacare through back when she was Speaker–come as Ryan has lost considerable support inside the Republican Party when it comes to this legislation.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) has been leading an effort along with Sens. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Ted Cruz (R-TX) and the House Freedom Caucus to get Republicans to rethink how they handle this rather rushing through what amounts to Obamacare 2.0. The bill from Ryan keeps the individual mandate but tweaks it so the government no longer collects a tax from those who do not purchase health insurance but insurance companies–with government backing for enforcement–collect a fee from those who do not purchase health insurance.

85 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • zoehoney says:

    I missed many myself, but my top 4 most disliked are McCain, Graham, Mc Connell and Ryan they are the worst. The way Paul Ryan stands up there next to the VP and drools makes me ILL. The 30% FEE or that they are allowing the insurance companies to put on the people needs to be slammed down immediately. Who can afford that? John Mc Cain I mean really, what has he done n the past 20 years that had a positive affect on this country? GET OUT.

  • CharlieSeattle says:

    GOP Healthcare Plan Would Allow Illegal Aliens to Get Tax Credits —- Tell Congress to Close the Loophole!

    https://www.numbersusa.com/news/gop-healthcare-plan-could-allow-illegal-aliens-access-tax-credits

    Dear activists,

    On Monday night, GOP Leaders unveiled a plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). Unfortunately, the legislation, as introduced, would allow illegal aliens to access taxpayer-funded benefits.

    NumbersUSA takes no position on the healthcare issue in general. But we do oppose taxpayer benefits going to illegal aliens.

    Under Obamacare, as many as 500,000 illegal aliens were able to obtain healthcare subsidies, amounting to $750 million, according to a 2015 Senate report, even though the law specifically excludes them from accessing the subsidies.

    At best, the GOP healthcare plan would keep the same failed verification process from the Affordable Care Act in place. But our Capitol Hill team is hearing from multiple contacts that the plan may not have a verification process at all to keep illegal aliens from accessing the plans tax credits.

  • Russell Patton Davis - Journal says:

    Cotton gets kind of right, Ryan gets it all wrong.
    No one in DC seems to be getting it mostly right..
    Maybe the following draft legislation is more right than any other so far.
    Conservative measures are used to create a result that will pull the rug from under Pelosi & crew.
    Please suggest improvements in the wording or content.
    The draft in a mere 674 words follows :
    ———————–
    ObamaCare Repeal & Replacement Act
    AKA
    Franklin Heath Care Individual Trust Act
    AKA
    The Each and Every Human Citizen Individual Healthcare Trust Act.
    ———————–
    Congress Finds:
    1.1) The conventional structure of the health care argument is designed to make the citizens lose to the legal-medical industrial complex that is ultimately bankster controlled hence functionally owned.
    The real parties of interest can be stripped of deceitful camouflage.
    None of the parties have any just reason to be parties if not for the #1 prime owner, that is the ultimate customer.
    1.2.1) Every lie in health care serves to strip THE CUSTOMER of human of dignity and turns them by degrees into a chattel, into a legal person and not a human.
    1.2.2) It appears the every such 1.2.1) possible economic transaction does that based upon fraudulent-by-deception use of the UCC.
    Strictly speaking those who are knowingly party to that abomination are party to as many as seven criminal and biblical abominations as their professional custom.
    1.4) This the cheapest, best and most health and liberty producing health care legislation to date will find that it answers all arguments against it having legitimacy. That is the legitimate reservation or argument against it must be free of factual falsehood, equivocation, dissemblance and logical fallacy.
    Therefore Congress establishes:
    2.) That this act establishes the bounds of the US government’s exclusive legitimate interest in the health care
    2.1) which is limited to the legitimate beneficial-&-legal owners(BOs) of the trust incorporated that is the only lawful government of the united states of America;
    2.2) except minimally including other persons that are conclusively evidenced as being so negligent (liable or guilty) of their own health care that they are physically a health hazard to other proper owners;
    2.3) and that except within the 2.2) exception all owner-beneficiaries of the trust will be exclusively authorized to *self-manage their own health care expenses* up to consumption of the law defined limit to the equity government will contribute to that individual human’s health care trust.
    This provision 1.5.3) will remove most evil producing confusion within the heath care industry because the ultimate buyer and payer is the customer.
    Good stewardship and thrift in healthcare self-management will now have proper reward.
    2.4.1) Given the current expected value of the average lifetime health costs of legitimate owner-beneficiaries (roughly $200,000) the treasury is here by commanded to issue a book entry credit into a trust account for every proven legitimate US citizen in that amount of treasury note *Franklins* convertible into Fed Note dollars at the Congress assessed *inflated value* of fed note dollars value for a basket of typical medical services as Congress may determine from time to time.
    2.4.2) Congress also finds that these provisions gives BOs’ great motive to be frugal while making every investment in preventative health care the BO deems to have likely profitable consequence.
    2.4.3) Congress also finds that these provisions make the healthcare market customer driven (rather than lawyer driven) and so competitive for customers is it reasonably expected to cause the cost of heath care to drop while its cost-effectiveness increases.
    2.5) Value within the beneficial owners(BO) healthcare human’s trust may by the fully proper witness command of the BO be
    2.5.1)bequeathed to another BO in last will & testament or
    2.5.2)freely granted to another BO without compensation if the of over 70 years of age or,
    2.5.3) freely granted to another BO at anytime in so much as the asset balance of the BO’s trust exceeds its original balance.
    2.5.4) Any party may grant money to a BO’s healthcare trust.
    3.1) The Veterans Administration’s Healthcare service will embrace open market services for the veterans.
    3.2) A BO in military service will receive a contribution to their healthcare trust fund as part of their pay in so much as Congress determines.
    3.3) Congress also finds that by this method the US veterans will become the honored customer rather than a grudgingly accepted expense.
    4.1) Congress also finds that now the government is largely out of the health care business except for the CDC and the military.
    5) ObamaCare is absolutely repealed.
    Drafted by Russell P Davis on March 9th in the year of God’s Word Made Flesh 2017

  • snowyriver says:

    If someone illegally gives insurance to many people.. Someone else comes along and says this was illegal.. Who is the bad guy?

  • Not_Easily_Impressed says:

    Can we get a clean walk back on the mandate? Is there anything we can get? Or, is it take, take, take?

  • bobnstuff says:

    No one here knows that the Republicans can’t repeal the full ACA because they don’t have the votes. All they can due is use a trick that isn’t used much that lets them change the money parts. They need 60 votes in the senate to do a total repeal and they just don’t have them. This is what happens when you don’t get a big win.

    1. Retired says:

      You left out there is so much garbage in those 2700 pages that do not pertain to health care , why do you think the SC did not back it and called it a tax ??? On the lack of 60 votes is what most do not get. Total repeal would also affect Medicaid and funds would have to be returned to Medicare.

      1. bobnstuff says:

        http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-the-budget-rule-you%e2%80%99ve-never-heard-of-that-ties-republicans%e2%80%99-hands-on-obamacare/ar-AAo4zlr?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPCDHP
        The Republicans hands are tied. To bad you never did find out the truth about the bill. It never took a dime out of medicare. It moved money inside of Medicare to fix a problem. You Tabloid Conservatives are so easy to mislead.

        1. Retired says:

          Medicare and Medicaid should be completely separate just like SS . The Government moves funds to cover how incompetent they are .

          1. bobnstuff says:

            You need to get your facts straight. Two different programs, funded differently and run differently. Medicare is run by the Federal government Medicaid is run by he states.

            http://www.diffen.com/difference/Medicaid_vs_Medicare

            The government did not move money out of medicare, in fact they can’t the way it’s set up.

            http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/sep/12/michele-bachmann/did-president-obama-steal-500-billion-medicare/

          2. Retired says:

            Where does the state get money to run Medicaid ??? Ups did you forget that one , that states get federal money to run the program . Just like ACA moved more people into Medicaid or did you miss that too ?? Funny that you always have opposition to things going on . Politifact is only as good as what is put in by people .

          3. bobnstuff says:

            Medicaid comes from the general fund like most federal programs. Totally different then Medicare. Medicaid is still a low income program, a pretty good one. You really don’t know much about any of this stuff do you. Funny you love to believe lies about things and are either to lazy or to stupid to go find the truth. You didn’t know that medicare and medicaid were totally different but had no problem talking about them. As I say you are just another Tabloid Conservative.

        2. Webb says:

          Wrong on Medicare…Money was taken for ObamaCare!
          As Well as The Doc Fix…
          To Get ObamaCare Passed and Scored By The CBo.

  • John Wirts says:

    Well are there actual republicans out there or Rino’s who will do anything for the DEAMONCRATS?

  • xingqin says:

    completely repel Obamacare and start over—there Obamacare bill is thousands of pages of crap that is so packed with lies and destruction that no one needs this. Healthcare should be available through free enterprise system and paying for the Insurance should be bargained for by those who want it ahd in a competative field

  • maxx says:

    Cotton is absolutely right on the money. No government involvement or interference whatsoever with laws controlling health insurance or health care. Paul Ryan is once again showing his GOP Establishment Elitist Rino colors. Once they get control over us they will never relinquish it unless they are removed from all government office positions.

  • Sue says:

    This from numbersusa today:
    ‘American Healthcare Act’ Will Continue To Allow Illegal Aliens To Get Healthcare Subsidies
    Bill needs to be fixed!

  • justinwachin says:

    I have health insurance. I think everyone should have health insurance, but I don’t think government has any business requiring people to purchase health insurance. If an uninsured person needs medical care, treat them and work out a payment plan.

    Much of the repeal pressure would disappear if Congress removed the individual mandate, removed the requirement that all plans must meet the Obamacare standard and remove the taxpayer subsidy.

    This doesn’t need to be Obamacare 2.0. We need to replace Obamacare with a plan that is based on free enterprise which includes a provision for those who are not insurable or for whom the premium would be too high.

    1. bobnstuff says:

      If they need medical care and don’t have insurance make them pay up front or let them die, after all who needs poor people anyway.

      1. justinwachin says:

        Many poor people are on Medicaid. Some of those who don’t have insurance made that choice because they are having trouble making ends meet. Eliminating insurance is a big money saver as long as the person doesn’t get sick.

        I don’t think letting a person die is an option. If that person is the sole income source for a family the government will then be stuck supporting the family at least until the kids turn 18.

        Part of the problem is that too many people knows they can get emergency treatment even if they can’t pay. They have taken advantage of the system. The individual mandate reduced that problem to a degree by requiring people to purchase insurance or pay a penalty.

        1. bobnstuff says:

          Healthcare and general health has a direct impact on the standard of living and the quality of life. In a nation with access to good healthcare for everyone the standard of living goes up. That’s one of the reasons the US doesn’t have the top standard of living, in fact we aren’t even in the top ten. Things that make a country great are how we treat our people. Things like healthcare, education, living wages, safety, and freedom all play a part in creating a great nation. We are failing in all these areas these days and the present government seem to be heading us in the wrong direction. Building up the military and cutting taxes on the rich are not what you do to create a great country. Just so you know using the ER for primary healthcare is not cost effective. You might as well just leave them die, it would be cheaper. Our system of providing healthcare is fairly new, just since WW II in fact. If you go back a hundred years you would see that the workers got health service from the company doctors as part of there pay. The Owners know that a sick worker didn’t do much work.

          1. justinwachin says:

            There are a lot of problems in using the emergency room as the primary healthcare provider. It is more expensive, wait times are longer and it interferes with the ability of the staff to take care of the true emergencies. At the same time some have found that is a great way to bypass having to pay for health care.

            I think the hospitals need to start working out a payment plan for those who show up without money or an insurance card. They might also need to turn away non-payers who don’t have true life threatening emergencies.

          2. bobnstuff says:

            The hospitals will work out payments but you had better have some real money to make the size payments they want. The ER runs between $500 and $1500 per visit and they try to get it payed off in 6 months so they want between $100 to $300 per month. They don’t want to talk to you for much less and hand it over to collection. Medical expenses make up 50% of all personal bankruptcies. Our healthcare system is unique to the US and cost about twice what other countries pay. We also create great wealth of a few people. I read that the CEO of United Health makes $66 million per year.

  • Ironmike4610 says:

    What has the Republicans been doing for the past 8 yrs.? They should have had a plan put together and passed weeks ago.

  • TexRancher says:

    Time for the elites to start listening to us! We voted for them to REPEAL this piece of crap known as ObamaCare! It’s as bad or worse for healthcare than Obama was as president! Both of them need to be “deep sixed”!

  • Leslie Woodhull says:

    Ryan DID NOT PROMISE US ANYTHING!! RYAN IS A COMPLETE SELL OUT AND AN ASS!!! GET RID OF RYAN AS SPEAKER OR ANY OTHER POSITION OF AUTHORITY!!! HE NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT AND WHIPPED!!!

    REPLACE THIS OBAMINATION OF A ‘HEALTHCARE’ (NOT!!) PLAN and START OVER!!! ANYONE WHO IS TRYING TO SELL THIS CLOWNCARE LITE, SHOULD BE HOG TIED AND RAILROADED THROUGH TOWN!!! ANYONE WHO CALLS THEMSELVES A CONSERVATIVE OR A REPUB AND TRIES TO SELL THIS POS LEGISLATION AS A REPEAL AND REPLACE WILL NOT BE RE-ELECTED TO ANYTHING!!!

    1. zoehoney says:

      TED CRUZ OR MIKE LEE PLEASE 🙂 RYAN GET OUT!

  • zoehoney says:

    Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Jim Jordan. Tom Cotton. These are the good guys. Get rid of Graham, McCain, RYAN and any other loser RINO in there.

    1. CharlieSeattle says:

      Vote out the e/GOP RINO’s regardless of this vote.

      RINO Paul Ryan re-elected 2016
      RINO Mitch McConnell re-elected 2016
      RINO John McCain re-elected 2016
      RINO Roy Blunt re-elected 2016
      RINO Lamar Alexander re-elected 2014
      RINO Lindsey Graham re-elected 2014
      RINO Thad Cochran re-elected 2014
      RINO Orrin Hatch re-elected 2012
      RINO Bob Corker re-elected 2012

      I know I missed a few others.

      Ironically, most RINO seats saved by Trumps election, most likely voted for Hillary Clinton!

  • zoehoney says:

    GET RID OF THE GD MANDATE. NOW THE INSURANCE COMPANIES CAN CHARGE 30% WTF IS THAT? GET A CLUE AND DO WHAT YOU PROMISED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

    1. Leslie Woodhull says:

      THEY didn’t promise the American people anything and RYAN ET AL THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT!!! TWEET TRUMP AND TELL HIM TO START OVER!!!

  • BOC says:

    This new plan is a dog, trading one set of entitlements for another set that does not pass the smell test.
    Shelve this and work on Tax Reform. It is and will continue to collapse under it’s own weight of unsustainability.

    1. There is a simple solution to this problem, but it seems that politicians can’t do anything under 3,500 pages.

      1. BOC says:

        Agreed and let us not forget the number one job of an elected official is above all else to be reelected!

      2. Retired says:

        They have to all get the pork for back home.

      3. TS_Kerns says:

        Easy Solution! Repeal and walk away! The Feds don’t belong in Health Care period. Private Insurance only please, you can keep your Doctor!! What a concept!

      4. reewa says:

        If they really want to help…let us buy insurance over state lines…then get out of our way.

  • President Trump should put all his top people together, spend a week and
    knock out a excellent, worthwhile healthcare plan – it’s really not
    that hard – commonsense should be the paradigm.

    1. Kanawah says:

      Yes.
      Everything covered, 100%.
      Everyone covered, 100%.
      We have the opportunity for greatness. It also must be for the good of all,not just the rich.

      1. Leslie Woodhull says:

        NOT. We are NOT Europe. If you want their CRAPPY HEALTHCARE then YOU should MOVE THERE!!!

        1. maxx says:

          It is probably living on “government welfare” all of it’s life so unwilling to support itself is normal.

        2. Retired says:

          The Health care is not as bad in Europe as the media has you believe . Just like Canada is not as bad, it’s the Insurance industry that does not want a national health plan ..Until the Elected have to buy their own insurance nothing good will happen .

      2. YOU ARE EITHER KIDDING OR ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND!

      3. Marine68 says:

        I am not rich, but I fend for myself. All those that cannot or will not should just be allowed to die like the useless trash they are.

      4. Ironmike4610 says:

        You love the Guberment taking care of you, HUH?

      5. Olaf Thunderfoot says:

        Where is this money going to come from?

    2. maxx says:

      If Congress got the hell out of the way the situation could be resolved and running in about 3 months time. Congress has always been the problem. There isn’t a pound of intelligence in all 535 of them combined.

  • CBUJAN says:

    Senator Cotton maybe right. Before they vote on a alternative to Obamacare people want to know how much it is going to cost is there a co-pay and how much is it. These questions most likely must be answered by the insurance companies. I have read about Senators Lee, Paul, and Cruz plan and I liked it. People are getting frustrated with the republicans arguing over the plans, so their must be some faults on the plan that Ryan is trying to pus threw.

  • Tiger says:

    Cotton one of the few I completely trust I agree with him.

    1. Kanawah says:

      If you trust Cotton, I have bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell you.

      1. Tiger says:

        Did you trust Obama? I have some buck shot for you. Come here.

        1. Glenda Jordan says:

          LMAO

  • Stephen Howe says:

    REPEAL! DO NOT REPLACE. START OVER!! Support Trump or GET OUT OF HIS WAY!

    1. Kanawah says:

      No, we will block the orange headed ass every step of the way.
      Not only must we not repeal the ACA, it must be strengthened and expanded.

      1. dave veltmand says:

        So…what you are saying is: Instead of 100+% increase in health insurance, we should pay 200+%?

      2. EARLIER I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE KIDDING, NOW i AM SURE YOU SUFFER FROM MENTAL RETARDATION.

        1. Ironmike4610 says:

          Kanawad is a dumbass. HUH?

        2. Olaf Thunderfoot says:

          Don’t insult the retarded like that!

        3. No says:

          Kanawah must be referring to the ultimate GLOBAL “health” plan the psychopaths have planned for us.

      3. CaMaven says:

        No way Lib.

      4. Ironmike4610 says:

        If you like your HALFRICANCARE. you can KEEP your HALFRICANCARE. We really don’t give a care!

      5. Frank629 says:

        what a jerk you are and extremely stupid too

      6. reewa says:

        Spoken like a true communist…

      7. Stephen Howe says:

        What is it with “tolerant, loving” libtards that they insist on criticizing what they perceive as physical shortcomings of out blond, blue-eyed, hetero President? Obama had nappy hair…so what?

    2. zoehoney says:

      Trump is humping Ryan behind the curtain. He is FOR the 30% FEE that insurance companies will slap us with if we miss a few months. HORRIBLE who can afford a 30% HIKE!? If you are down on your luck financially? I sure cannot.

  • FLChristyB says:

    I guess some people never learn. Establishment Republicans, like most Democrats, think Americans are stupid. Unfortunately they are proving just how stupid THEY are. GET RID OF RYAN

    1. Kanawah says:

      “GET RID OF RYAN”, and the rest of the loony right wing nuts along with him.

      the best suggestion I have seen on this thread.

      1. AS BAD AS THE LOONY RIGHT IS, THE DEMOCRATS ARE MERELY PERNICIOUS COMMUNISTS IN DISGUISE AS LIBERALS, PROGRESSIVES, AND SOCIALISTS.

      2. CaMaven says:

        You’re stupid. Ryan is a RINO.

    2. TS_Kerns says:

      Most definitely! Just another RINO!! I believe this is a case of Federal Over reach here. The Fed should not be offering Health Care insurance, should be the States or Private Ins. Since when has the Fed gov ever been able to provide anything efficiently? Always a sink hole of bad accountability and waste!

    3. CharlieSeattle says:

      I agree!

  • Leslie Woodhull says:

    I really like Tom Cotton, Mike Lee and Rand Paul-who IS a dr!!! START OVER!!! GET RID OF RYAN AND ALL OTHER RINOS INCLUDING McCAIN and GRAHAMNESTY!!! NO OBLABBA 2.0!!!

    1. Kanawah says:

      Tom Cotton, Mike Lee and Rand Paul.
      Three of the elephant turds of the congress.
      not the only ones, ut three of them.

      1. Olaf Thunderfoot says:

        The biggest turd in Congress is either Maxine Walters or Nancy Pelosi.

  • grinnie says:

    REPEAL…..PERIOD!

    1. Kanawah says:

      No!
      We must strengthen it, and expand it.
      the ultimate answer is a national health care system, run by the government, and 100% funded by tax dollars.

      1. Marine68 says:

        Move to Venezuela, Cuba, Russia or even the UK; those all love Parasitic slugs like yourself.

        1. Retired says:

          Probably where he came from.

      2. Ironmike4610 says:

        Taxpayers don’t want to take care of sorry asses like YOU!

      3. Olaf Thunderfoot says:

        Like the VA where vets fucking DIE because they can’t get an appointment? You are a brain dead moron who has consumed way too much leftist koolaid.

        1. Retired says:

          It is starting to get that way in many cities, you have to plan your illness weeks in advance and some surgeries month in advance . But if you have Medicaid you go to the top of the list.

      4. No says:

        Cannot survive, will not survive, governments Have no right to decide how, if or when we should receive care for our health. Your plan should never materialize in America. Your plan gives the government the power to manipulate and control in ways you don’t seem to understand.

        1. Retired says:

          I never had trouble getting meds before ACA , but since then meds have been denied and now I have to get a new prescription every 30 days and some are no longer available from mail order for three month .

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