Threats of Government Shutdown Grow after Trump threat

by Mike Lilis
August 24, 2017

The chances of a government shutdown in the fall are growing.

Congress returns to Washington next month facing a full plate of must-pass legislation and a shutdown threat that looks more serious after President Trump suggested on Tuesday he won’t support a spending package that omits new funds for a southern border wall.

“Believe me, if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall,” he said during a fiery rally in Phoenix.

Trump’s shutdown threat is just the latest headache for the Republicans, who are already scrambling to mend deep internal divisions among rank-and-file members, manage disintegrating relations between Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and contain the fallout from the president’s equivocating response to the deadly violence at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., earlier this month.

79 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • Bob says:

    Why shut down? Didn’t Mexico send the money – the Chumpster told us Mexico was paying for the damn Wall. JUST ANOTHER BAIT-AND-SWITCH LIE from the Clown/Conman, Putin Puppet in the Oval Office.

    1. Retired says:

      The puppet in the Oval Office was Billy Boy and Obama , they both kissed UN -OWO -IMF and world central bank Butt . They all made sure when the crunch strikes that the Bankers [ CROOKS ] were protected . 2008 would not have happened if the 0 down payment had newer come about plus Bill Clinton sitting by while our jobs left the country .NAFTA was already in the works before Clinton admitted to it .

      1. Bob says:

        Retarded – Go preach your phony BS to the rest of the Uneducated right-wing nut jobs who support Orange Blossom. As always you’re a complete FAILURE, unable to list any of the Draft-Dodger’s accomplishments, because like the DO NOTHING Republicon Congress with their 9% job approval, THERE ARE NO AGENDA ACCOMPLISHMENTS. Adios, skippy. Continue your perfect record of FAILURES, skippy!!!

        1. Retired says:

          Why must you brag about yourself as being a retard and failure ????

          1. Bob says:

            Retard or Retread – Once again you FAILED TO LIST ALL THOSE great accomplishments by the Orange Blossom/Carp face, Draft Dodger. Congratulations, loser!!!

          2. Retired says:

            Why do you brag about yourself like that ???? You are the loser in the long run . why don’t you go out and march with your BLM brothers .

          3. The Redhawk says:

            HECK Bob IS the Example that HE CAN reach Higher levels of “STUPID” every day!! Just like MAXI WATERS CAN & PELOSI CAN and the WHOLE (D) Anarchy party can!!!

      2. The Redhawk says:

        Nailed again Buddy!

  • bobnstuff says:

    We need a clean bill to raise the debt ceiling, just the one thing on it, nothing else. If a wall is to be funded it should also be a clean bill so everyone will know who voted for it. This using blackmail to pass bills isn’t the way things should be done. If Trump can’t get enough votes to fund his bill to bad for him but all this arm twisting needs to stop. The funny thing is Trump keeps saying he is strong on border security but hasn’t hired the guards to replace the ones that have left this year let along the 5000 he said he would. Now the other thing is will it be a wall or a fence?

    1. Retired says:

      No we need to clean house in Government jobs from the top down and take the doors off of the higher ups, so they are exposed to doing nothing . Just like in the postal service . Fire the ones not doing their job and take away the benefit package like what was done to people in manufacturing .

      1. bobnstuff says:

        Do you really want to fire Trump?

        1. Retired says:

          Funny HA HA , you know exactly what I meant . He does not sit behind Closed doors . Reading becoming a problem for you ????

          1. bobnstuff says:

            No he goes out and plays golf or sit with his phone like a teenage girl. His job is to lead but no one will follow him. Congress defies him, the other world leaders tell Trump jokes. Congress my be useless but at least they understand what their job is and who they represent.

          2. Retired says:

            It’s people like you with the Media spreading hate against Trump because the trash Clintons did not win .You as well as Congress refuse to give Trump a chance from the day he won the Election . Traitors are what you all is .

          3. bobnstuff says:

            I educate people to who our president truly is. It has nothing to do with Clinton and everything to do with Trump. His history is that of a lying, cheating self centered manchild who is destroying the country.

            I give him a chance but he never changed or figured out what his job is. It’s Trump & Company that are looking more and more like the traitors.

          4. Retired says:

            You are so full of Bullshitsky , it has everything to do with the Clintons, otherwise Trump would not have won . you are a typical Media hog that spreads hate for Trump from Day One . You need to educate yourself or get the HELL out of the USA .You are no better than the Hollywood people who said they would move out of the country all talk and no action .

          5. bobnstuff says:

            Tell me, did Trump cheat on not one wife but two? Did Trump not end up paying $25 million out to settle a fraud case because of Trump University? Did he not have to payout more money to settle a money laundering case? Did Trump not burn investors, supplies, vendor, contractors and banks when he went bankrupt but walk away with money in the deal? Did he not say he like to grab women? Did he not lie about phone calls that never happened? Did he not tell his son to lie about the meeting with the Russians? None of these things have anything to do with Clinton and everything to do with who Trump is and what he stands for. So my Retarded friend tell me about all the good Trump has done in his life and how he puts others needs before his and all the wonderful things he has done so far for the country and the respect he gets from his own party and the world leaders. The White supremacists love him as does the American Nazi party. He is a hit with the KKK but not so much with any other group. His own staff don’t like him half the time.

          6. Retired says:

            Didn’t Bill Clinton cheat on his wife and all the Mysterious deaths around the Clintons life ???? What are you the Black Nazi party that you keep bringing up BLM and their killings .

          7. bobnstuff says:

            Your knowledge of BLM is as limited as most of your knowledge. I notice you didn’t deny anything. We aren’t talking about Clinton we are talking about Trump the worlds number one liar and cheat.

          8. Retired says:

            OH ,I only live where BLM is quite active with their Hate and want everything handed to them and support the Cop Killings . Did you forget about all the Things that the Clintons did wrong in Office ??? Democrats can do no wrong in your Books . Trump has done nothing wrong in office except expose the truth what goes on in Politics . So both sides gang up on him because they shit their pants of getting exposed just like our lying media which you support . The Clintons is the reason Trump was elected so yes we can talk about them instead of Trump.

          9. bobnstuff says:

            He has lied his back side of over and over, he told his son to lie. He is ripping of the taxpayers for millions and all you can say is Clinton did this, Clinton is not president Trump the great liar is. When he’s not lying he’s name calling and attacking the very people he needs. What Clinton did our didn’t do changes nothing.

          10. Retired says:

            You just can NOT get it through your thick skull that Trump is President thanks to the Clintons and Obama . He wants to clean up WDC and people like you with the media don’t want that ????

          11. bobnstuff says:

            The problem is he is not capable of handling the job, he is totally clueless as to what he is doing. Besides the fact that he is a lying con man who has personality disorders he just isn’t all that smart. He is a president without a party thanks to his own stupidity.

          12. Retired says:

            You are the one totally clueless with your hate , Congress with Schumer – Pelosi – McCain McConnell and now Ryan are the problem more than Trump . They all refuse to work with him and not the other way you claim . While you clowns play games and blame Russia with ties to Trump , China walks in the back door . Better learn their language and save a bowl for begging on the street corner for some rice and fish bones .

          13. bobnstuff says:

            Why would anyone work with a person who keeps attacking you. There is zero leadership coming from Trump only noise. He might get away with his bullying when he owns the company but it doesn’t work as President. He has given away our place at the table on the world stage, China owns him, they have for years. He talks a good game but backs down. After all look who he owes money to.

          14. Retired says:

            That is all people like you have been doing since he won ,attack Trump is your goal along with the media . China Owns the US thanks to you Smart Demo Rats and your controls . Yes look at how much the US owes China thanks to the wasteful spending that was hidden when Demon Rats were in control . China will own you .

          15. bobnstuff says:

            Trump has a personal stake in China since he owes them a bunch of money. He also got a bunch of money from Russian citizens. Ask his son since he was the one bragging about it. I guess when you are cut off from every other bank because you stiffed them you go where ever you have to.

          16. Retired says:

            Why don’t you take your hate and go play with the Boys of BLM . You are nothing more than a sore loser . Maybe you should join the Hollywood losers and leave the USA . Canada is probably a good place for you or better yet go to China .

          17. bobnstuff says:

            No, I’m a true loyal American who fears for his country because of the unstable person who is President. You are the one willing to defend a man who lied his way into an office he isn’t qualified for and can’t handle. You defend a man who is dividing the country like Hitler did Germany in 1933.

          18. Retired says:

            Here you go again with the lies , you are part of the dividing the USA with your support for the Clintons and Obama . Obama and the media are the ones that made the divide and you support them like you support BLM . You and your friends in congress are the Problem , go look in the mirror and you will see the problem . You don’t want law and order is your problem .

          19. bobnstuff says:

            Trump has divided his own party. Even his cabinet is running away from him. My friends in congress are the sane ones here. It’s Trump that supports groups like the KKK and the American Nazi Party. His own words damn him.

          20. Retired says:

            It was divided before Trump was even elected under Obama . Republicans preached how they would kill the ACA for years , like a good demon Rat you can NOT get anything straight . The 3 Ks was the Democrats baby for over a century . Trump was Quite clear about both groups but you only listened to the left wing Media . Obama is calling you , he is horny .

          21. bobnstuff says:

            The republicans took them in back in the late 60’s and they now have a voice in he White House. Yes Trump was very clear that those good people chanting antisemitic hate were fine people. Those Good people with there hate symbols were just your good Americans.

          22. Retired says:

            But you support BLM the Black Nazi party of the US , Obama is your leader . A Muslim just like you full of hate .

  • Humble Servant says:

    The majority of straight thinkers voted Trump into office. The crazies are going nuts to make his life miserable. This is telling me the crazies can’t tolerate having to work and live under the guidelines pre-1990 in America.

    Mitch is working hard to keep his job by appeasing these crazies instead of doing the job he was sent to Washington for. Mitch may have to make a decision to work harder to succeed or quit. Regardless we, the God fearing, rational, sane people will make this fight about keeping America great.

  • bob breglio says:

    The president didn’t equivocate in his response to the Charlottesville violence. He condemned both sides, as well he should have. Antifa needs to be designated a terror group so we can dismantle them once and for all.

  • Jose says:

    If all these places that shut down do not have the “employees” there, then that should save a lot of money. No work, no pay. I do not care of this “it is not my fault” again no work no pay.

    1. goldie says:

      I wonder how many protestors have regular jobs; pretty hard to protest constantly and hold down a job at the same time – unless they are receiving a paycheck for protesting from that anarchist george soros. He needs to be arrested for fomenting and financing anarchy against our government and our people.

      1. Jose says:

        Agreed 100%. FBI/CIA needs to follow the money.

        1. gvette says:

          You may find It’s Soros, or one of his many foundations he supports!

          1. Retired says:

            How about the new Pac Hillary started this Month ????

          2. gvette says:

            LOL..just another money grab for Killary!

          3. Retired says:

            Just proves the Clintons are up to more no good against Trump.

          4. gvette says:

            It won’t do them any good. Even the DemonRATS know she is damaged good!!! I just wish they would stop posting pictures of her/it. They make me sick to my stomach. They should at least put a bag over her head!

          5. Retired says:

            It makes one wonder why the site posts pictures of the Demon Rat members ???

  • itsfun says:

    If McConnell can’t do his job, then the President will. McConnell should be looking for different employment. I can’t imagine him getting elected again.

  • DrBillLemoine says:

    The only good thing that will come out of a government shutdown (over a Wall?) is Democrats elected into congressional majorities. It could lead to Trump impeachment as well. Shut down, government can do nothing for anybody let alone needy base Trump voters. America will not be ‘great’, Mr. Trump, if the world cannot count on America to back its obligations internally or externally with ratings downgrades that always happen from Fitch and Moodys afterwards.
    So I’m ambivalent about a shutdown: good for progressives taking office in 2018; bad for national status and remaining ‘great’.

    1. gvette says:

      LOL..the whole government never shuts down bill. Even during the last one. You’ll still get your teachers paycheck, Bill.

      1. goldie says:

        Last time the government shut down nobody noticed. That shows how unnecessary most of it is.

        1. DrBillLemoine says:

          That was then; this is now–under Trump. You are ignoring the many citizens who could not visit their national parks or the Washington Monument–they noticed. Bond rate setters notice after the Moody downgrade of America’s rating. That’s a huge hit to bond costs paid by bondholder Americans who noticed. Not every problem in the nation smacks you in the face and says, ‘I’m a problem, average citizen.’
          Just because YOU didn’t notice doesn’t diminish the significance of the action.

          1. gvette says:

            I see you’re still full of yourself, or full of shit. The credit rating drop was this.
            The 2011 S&P downgrade was the first time the government was given a rating below AAA. S&P had announced a negative outlook on the AAA rating in April 2011. The downgrade to AA+ occurred four days after the 112th United States Congress voted to raise the debt ceiling of the federal government by means of the Budget Control Act of 2011 on August 2, 2011. Later, the US Government commenced an investigation into S&P’s role in the rating of several mortgage backed securities which played a role in the 2008 financial crisis.[1] In order to mend its relationship with the US government, S&P asked its then CEO to step down, a mere 18 days after the US was downgraded. S&P announced on August 23, 2011 that Deven Sharma would step down as a Chief of Standard & Poor’s effective September 12, 2011, and would leave the company by end of the year.

          2. goldie says:

            And shutting down the national parks etc was a vindictive move on the part of the obama admin. who had the signs printed up well ahead of time. Conversely, we are now listening to leftist radicals who demand that we tear down monuments; and the media doesn’t seem to see that as a crime. The left has a disease of the mind. Liberalism and hypocrisy.

          3. DrBillLemoine says:

            Don’t you ever plan ahead? Always on the spur of the moment in everything? Responsible leaders think and plan ahead, like for government shutdown. Compared to insuring that social security checks were delivered on time, keeping parks open is low priority, hence they close. Plus parks are obvious to public, bond prices, not so much.
            Referring to the obvious, millions of Americans recoil at confederate adulation via plainly visible statues of Lee et al who LOST the war. So removing, not destroying statues, is the order of the day. UN Ambassador Nikki Haley was an obvious Republican who led the way–do you call her a leftist radical? See it’s nonsense. Actual destruction of statues is a crime and should be punished. It’s the law, not mental disease as you wrongly portray it.

          4. Retired says:

            Dr. Bull does not comprehend that as his mind is diseased !!!

        2. gvette says:

          LOL..just the ignorant Bill cares.

      2. mudguy1 says:

        And more Republancans won in the next election.

        1. gvette says:

          Bill didn’t get that memo!

          1. Retired says:

            What did you expect from a brainwashed Union Educator ????

    2. mudguy1 says:

      Wrong every time there was a Government shut down more Republicans were elected.

      1. Retired says:

        Dr. Bull is a typical Union hack , he repeats what they sell him .

    3. maxx says:

      Don’t forget they will start pushing grandma and grandpa down the stairs too. YOU ARE DEFINITELY A MENTALLY ILL TROLL.

      1. DrBillLemoine says:

        Are you confusing Obamacare with separate government shutdown, that time led by Sen. Cruz? It’s certainly a sign your memory is deficient, if not mental illness.

        1. Retired says:

          The only one confused is you !!!

        2. maxx says:

          Not at all. Every time a “phony government shutdown” is threatened the democommies like you start crying about everything related to our seniors, especially Social Security payments because it sounds good in the news. 85% of monthly government spending is on “auto pilot” by law. Conservatives will not abandon their officials because of the ridiculous “crying wolf”. It hasn’t worked for a very long time.

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            Earth to maxx. It was Republicans under Ted Cruz who spearheaded government shutdown in the past, never Democrats. How don’t you know this?
            In reality a skeleton crew remains employed to send out Social Security checks as you say, but don’t seem to recognize. Only Republicans ‘cry wolf’ when congress doesn’t want or can’t pass debt ceiling raises or budgets–the cheapskates. Freedom isn’t free and right wingers under Trump, McConnell and Ryan are running headlong into penury and dictatorship. You righties are getting what you voted for–continued Obamacare, no tax reform, and higher expenses for the military and a wacky Wall. (MX will still not pay for the wall–just you righties via higher taxes.

          2. maxx says:

            I never said the democommies threaten to shut down the government but they are the ones who pull out all the asinine “senior and minority affecting things” they only hope would take place and never ever do because as I did say “it makes good copy” on the MSM news networks. I am saying the last time a threat was made and the democommies predicted the Republicans would suffer terribly for it was pure fantasy. The Republicans took even more seats in Congress as well as state governorships.

          3. DrBillLemoine says:

            Yes, right. But I never said what you attribute to me as a Democratic Progressive. And shutting down government is not good as I described. Dems are struggling with messaging and leadership to proclaim it, not adopting ALEC and not having the simplicity of simple stonewalling like Rs over all legislation and even stealing a Supreme Court Justice spot. You righties stop at nothing to get your regressive ways and are good at bait and switch campaigning, basic lying, to attain office that Dems don’t employ. But detached voters are learning slowly how disastrous right wing policies are at both federal and state levels–voter suppression in 3-4 states at my last count, cutting D governor’s powers in NC, pursuing coal energy pandering to WV fears of shutdown, withdrawing from Paris Accord effectively ceding the future of clean power to China, and so much more. Is it for good that hate groups like KKK are re-emerging into national influence via Trump and Scalise?

    4. Retired says:

      It would work if you withhold Congress and their employees money until they reach a settlement that Trump would sign and no back pay or befits for that time congress wasted . That would be the only shut down needed .

      1. DrBillLemoine says:

        I’m for that. Just try getting congress to pass legislation that reduces their paychecks.

        1. Retired says:

          A properly written EO that congress can NOT change would take care of that .Obama did it so why can’t Trump ????

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            You don’t know that Executive Orders are written where congress has failed to act but cannot govern that body. What did Obama do against congressional action or inaction that fits that bill?

          2. Retired says:

            Well congress is failing and Obama did use EOs . read them for yourself . There are only 8 years worth , was you sleeping ???

          3. DrBillLemoine says:

            Obama EOs were written because the Republican congress failed to act in particular areas. He was enacting rules helpful to citizens where they were needed. Again Congress could have legislated in any or all of those areas but didn’t. In one case the courts overturned an EO, but that’s it–for 8 years.

          4. Retired says:

            Funny thing Obama could write all the garbage EOs and Trump writes some for the good of the Country and your type gets all bent out of shape , no double standard amongst you Demon Rats . Old Windbag fits you perfectly .

  • Janthony132 says:

    McConnell better pay attention cause We The People are getting fed up with his lack of support for the Presidents agenda and his trying to undermine other GOP candidates running for office. (Better get used to it, We Want Judge Moore in the senate).

    1. maxx says:

      That should also apply to Paul (Rino) Ryan. I am really sick of both gutless “speakers”. Congress better heed “we the people” or they could all lose their jobs. How about creating an “Abolish Congress” movement. Based upon their absolute disregard for the will of the people they are no longer representing anybody but their own parties. Abolish political parties while we are at it. People run for office on their own merits not on a corrupt organizations line of B.S. The “ruling class” must be eliminated if America is to survive. They are our enemies from within.

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    2. I Seigel says:

      Don’t forget: We the People for Trump was 3 million less than We the People for Clinton. If it had been Bernie, who knows how badly Trump would have lost.

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