Florida Gov. Rick Scott asks courts to quickly intervene in Obamacare spat with HHS

by Tom Howell Jr.
May 8, 2015

Florida Gov. Rick Scott asked a federal court Thursday to thwart the Obama administration from using “unconstitutional coercion” to, in his view, force him to expand Medicaid under Obamacare by refusing to renew a separate program that helps hospitals care for the poor and uninsured.

Mr. Scott, a Republican, paid a personal visit this week to Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell, hoping to secure more than $1 billion in federal funds to extend the Low Income Pool (LIP) program, which reimburses hospitals that treat the poor and uninsured.

The administration, though, says expanding Medicaid would be a more effective way to ensure that more than 800,000 of Florida’s poorest resident gain access to care. It does not want funding streams such as LIP to pick up costs that Medicaid expansion might cover.

Without a straight answer in hand, Mr. Scott asked the courts to force HHS to consider his request without letting Obamacare color its deliberations.

“Without this vital [LIP] funding, healthcare providers through Florida stand to lose hundreds of millions of dollars used to offset the costs of care not otherwise compensable through Medicaid, either in its current or its expanded form,” Mr. Scott said in a motion to the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida.

32 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • Raymond J Ambrozaitis says:

    Floridian government just keeps wasting taxpayer money on law suits and shit fits

  • Dennis Wenthold says:

    I find it interesting the the very rich so called Christians do not want to do what is right to help the poor improve their health care. Look at the other states that are doing this and it is working very well,

    1. iprazhm says:

      I don’t know what religion you are but no where in the bible do I know of it tells Christians to pay for anyone’s healthcare. The bible tells us how to live correctly for good health, what to avoid to have good health and how to pray and have faith for healing from God. He is, as He alluded several times, the great physician.
      Imho, liberals do not want to do what is right and pay their own way or do without like the rest of us. As a general rule they live by the mantra of ‘if it feels good do it’, then they demand that everyone else pay for the consequences their irresponsible behavior..
      Demanding the government take by force from others who work hard to support their own families, and then give it to you and your family, is vile and selfish behavior. How miserable it must be to go through life always feeling that it’s the duty of everyone BUT you to take care of your needs. Always coveting what ‘rich’ people have because you wrongly believe you deserve it more, even though you aren’t willing to work hard for it yourself.
      Now I find THAT interesting.

      1. Dennis Wenthold says:

        I am Catholic and probably more liberal than conservative as I get older. I understand that we have leaches who are always trying to beat the system and that is wrong but we also have people, through no fault of their own, who need help until they get back on their feet. I am set for life but I do not mind helping others in need. It bothers me when SOME very rich people try and hid their money instead of paying their fare share of taxes.

        1. BHR says:

          52 percent of Americans pay no taxes. 2 percent of Americans pay 50 percent of the taxes. 10 percent pay 90 percent. How much do you expect people to pay.
          Depending on what state you live in, between federal and state welfare agencies a family of 4 can get up to $86 thousand dollars a year. When is enought, enought?
          There are a lot of jobs in AMERICA, many of them are service jobs but a place to start. There are over half a million technical jobs that go unfilled each year because people are not qualified. GE has to hire 30 thousand engineers a year, from other nations to work in AMERICA.
          People have become very lazy and expect someone else to take care of them. When I was young and first started working, I always had 2 or 3 jobs, no reason people can not do that today.
          There are some people that are disabled or have serious problems that need help. 62 percent of all Americans get some form of government help each year, that is wrong. AMERICA is bankrupt and has to borrow money each month to operate, we will not be able to do this much longer.
          All the news channels interviewed people in Baltimore after the riots. Many of them, in there forties had never worked and they were healthy. They said they made more from the government.
          Baltimore has been controlled by the liberals since 1950, billions have been spent to help the people, they are no better now than 1950. Liberal programs do not work.
          People do not need welfare, they need jobs. President Clinton gave people job training, if they had none and limited there welfare to 5 years in a lifetime. The first thing OBAMA did was give people unlimited welfare and did away with mandatory job training.

          1. Dennis Wenthold says:

            Liked you comments. Maybe we need a tax system where everyone pays 10% with no deductions

          2. bobnstuff says:

            As I just said above I love when people say that 41% pay no taxes. I guess those 41% don’t smoke, drink booze, buy gas, own houses, stay in hotels, have telephones, use electricity, drive cars, eat at McD’s, or anything else. Everyone pays taxes, the poor in many cases pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes the the rich do just because of what the buy. Also
            Where does the rich get the money to pay those taxes, from the sweat of their labors? Do you think they
            don’t add the cost of taxes in setting prices on what they sell. In other word everyone pays taxes.

          3. BHR says:

            Most people who pay no taxes get much of their life paid for by the government. If you want more in AMERICA, work harder, go to school or get two jobs. It is not someone else’s responsibility to pay for other people’s lives. Stop playing the victim.
            Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and millions of other people have become financially secure because they have the freedom to do so in AMERICA.

          4. bobnstuff says:

            So I guess you have gotten rich. In a
            perfect world what you say is true but it doesn’t always work out as nice as you seem to think it should. I know a number of cases where they have gotten an education to get a better job just to find out there are no jobs in the field when they graduated, and are loaded with the debt of school they can’t pay. Other people can’t make it on one job so they get another one but they lose their family because they are never home. How about the guy who builds a business but because of family problems have to sell it and get ripped off by the buyer. They all did what you said they should but it just didn’t work out, not from lack of trying but just bad luck. Every case is different and you shouldn’t judge until you walk a mile in an other mans shoes. I would rather be ripped off by a few people if it means helping those that need it.

        2. iprazhm says:

          I do sir agree that if you have the means to pay for those that need healthcare, you certainly have a right to do so. But in that same vein I submit that you nor anyone else has the right to tell me to take one dime from placing food on my table for my children to pay for someone else’s aspirin, heart transplant, crutches or band aides. Charity is what is given freely by each of us, as we are moved by God and are able to give and still provide for our own. No one can determine what someone else can bear to give, not the beggar with his hand out nor the government with a club in it’s hand. It is not ‘love’ to force others to give, because then it is not charity, but tyranny.

    2. Chip Casey says:

      Since when is it your job to determine how much to steal from one man’s pocket to give to another man who did not earn it regardless of how wealthy he is? Being wealthy isn’t a crime and unless he gives it up willingly, it is stealing. You have a communist attitude.

      1. Dennis Wenthold says:

        I am far from communists and a Vietnam vet. It just bothers me when companies like General Electric move some of thier factories overseas instead of employing Americans make bnillions of profit and pay no taxes.

      2. bobnstuff says:

        Is it any different stealing the labor of others by paying a substandard wage to get rich when you do nothing or raping the earth and fowling the water and air of others different them making someone give back a little of what they stole. The money that is being taxed is not wages earned but interest gained by loaning money in the form of buying stock. In many cases the money is gained by destroying job by sending the to other countries. Is having the rich take care of the poor a bad thing when in many cases they are the reason the poor are poor.

  • bobnstuff says:

    Give me your money but not your rules sounds like a teenager talking to Mommy and Daddy. If you want the hand out you got to take the rules. If you don’t like the rules don’t take the money.

    1. Dennis Wenthold says:

      USA Today, April 14, 2015:
      Why pays Taxes:
      American Households = 59%
      American HOuseholds that pay no taxes = 41%
      (We should all pay something)
      Sources of Tax Revenue:
      Income Tax = 46%
      Payroll Taxes = 34%
      Corporate Taxes = 11%
      Excise, Estate & other Taxes = 9%
      Where is the tax money spent?
      Social Security 24% (People have worked for this benefit since 1933)
      Medicare/Medicaid/Chip = 24%
      (People have worked for this benefit since 1970)
      National Defense = 18%
      Safety Net Programs = 11%
      Interest on National Dept = 7%
      (This could have been payed off when Bush became President)
      a. NO tax program to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which added to the dept.
      b. Drug program for Senior Citizens (Good Program) but no tax program to pay for it
      c. Banks making balloon loans that people could not pay when the balloon came due.
      d. This caused the construction workers to loose their jobs and homes too
      e. Changed the tax program so less taxes came in.
      This is what caused the economy to fall.
      Statistics now show the USA is doing better since 2008
      The problem is we have lost so many jobs where people use their hands to work. These jobs have gone overseas. These are the people that are hurting.

      1. bobnstuff says:

        I love when people say that 41% pay no taxes. I guess those 41% don’t smoke, drink booze, buy gas, own houses, stay in hotels, have telephones, use electricity, drive cars, eat at McD’s, or anything else. Everyone pays taxes, the poor in many
        cases pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes the the rich do just because of what the buy.

        1. Dennis Wenthold says:

          Just quoting USA Today. These 41% do pay sales taxes.

  • Jesustheonlyway says:

    America has moved from a Republic to a Dictatorship under Obama – it won’t be any different under Hil-LIAR-y should she be elected – or any Democrat for that matter. They voted God out of their platform and performed a fake ceremony of voting Him back in – putting it on paper didn’t change their hearts.

    1. Raymond J Ambrozaitis says:

      LMAO yes a Theocracy would be so much better.

      1. Jesustheonlyway says:

        You are a fool. Satan is your master.

        1. Raymond J Ambrozaitis says:

          SInce I do not believe in Satan but you not only do but you also fear him who is the fool?

          1. Jesustheonlyway says:

            WRONG! I do not fear Satan. Jesus conquered Satan for me. But the fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom and since you have no fear of either you have no wisdom so YOU are the fool.

          2. Raymond J Ambrozaitis says:

            LMAO fearing an all caring God is the beginning of wisdom sounds like the end of wisdom to me

          3. Jesustheonlyway says:

            At this point all I can do is feel sorry for you. Hell is real and unfortunately unless you change your ways that’s where you headed. Eternity is forever, unending – and spending it in a lake of fire is unimaginable. Ignorance is no excuse the Bible tells us and just because you say you don’t believe doesn’t change a thing. Death is final and the worse part for people like you is that after you’re there it’s too late to change your mind.

          4. Raymond J Ambrozaitis says:

            Hell is having to read things such as you post and you do not even know your religion very well. My adherence to my beliefs can in fact according to your faith get me into what you call Heaven,. Got ya !!

          5. Jesustheonlyway says:

            You are most definitely a fool. You ‘got nothing’ but ‘your beliefs’ which is a far cry from the teachings of Jesus. You are a God hater especially if you think the things I’m telling you are hell. God help you.

          6. Raymond J Ambrozaitis says:

            And just who appointed you the Voice of God? DId He abdicate and appoint you or did you just decide that you are better qualified than God who is the only One who can judge me? Moron I will make you dizzy if you keep up talking about something you know so little about

          7. Jesustheonlyway says:

            I have given you The WORD OF GOD – that is what judges you – not me. I’m just the messenger. You just don’t like the message because it condemns you. You have not accepted Jesus as your personal Savior and that is what condemns you. All of Heaven paid a great price for man to have salvation and it is no little matter with God. Jesus bled and died for everyone, including you but you don’t want Him. And when you don’t want Jesus then you are condemned already because HE is the ONLY way into Heaven, not your silly beliefs. You either live for Jesus or you go to Hell. Those are not my words, they are God’s and HE ALONE is the judge.

          8. Raymond J Ambrozaitis says:

            Would you please give me the exact quote you claim as what you say is a lie. In fact it has long been considered by Christian Theologians that as long as someone believes even if theri belief is not in the teachings of Jesus they will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.Therefore it isa strongly advisable that you practice what you preach and stop deciding that I am going anywhere

          9. Jesustheonlyway says:

            There is no possible way I can give you all the scripture that you need in this forum but this is enough to encourage you to live a better life. Anyone guilty of any of the works of the flesh listed below will NOT enter God’s Heaven. Believe or not – that’s up to you. You’re lost and only YOU can change that.

            John 14:6: Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
            John 15:10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
            Galatians 5:19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

          10. Raymond J Ambrozaitis says:

            Best read your own posts again. While they show several ways to what you might call heaven none say there is no other way including John 14:6 because as I have said Biblical Scholars have time and again said that not only Christians can gain what you call heaven. Jesus in other Scriptural quotes has inferred as much. And now you have a nice day, hear?

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