House Dems say Trump will be in breach of contract over hotel

by Harper Neidig | TheHill
December 15, 2016

President-elect Donald Trump will be in breach of contract with the General Services Administration (GSA) over his Washington hotel when he takes office, Democratic lawmakers say in a new letter.

The letter was sent to the GSA by Democratic Reps. Elijah Cummings (Md.), Peter DeFazio (Ore.), Gerry Connolly (Va.) and André Carson (Ind.). It thanks the GSA for a briefing delivered to lawmakers about possible conflicts of interest regarding the Trump International Hotel.

“Most importantly, the Deputy Commissioner informed our staff that GSA assesses that Mr. Trump will be in breach of the lease agreement the moment he takes office on January 20, 2017, unless he fully divest himself of all financial interests in the lease for the Washington, D.C. hotel,” the lawmakers wrote.
“The Deputy Commissioner made clear that Mr. Trump must divest himself not only of managerial control but of all ownership interest as well.”

Trump’s company is leasing the Old Post Office building from the federal government for the hotel.

139 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • Donnie Buchanan says:

    BUT, Obozo can take a $4.5+ million vacation to Hawaii every year and that is OK, but Trump can’t keep ownership even if his kids run things?!?!?! That is Bull Shiite. Maybe Trump should just rent out the Lincoln bedroom like Slick Willie and Killery did. The dems couldn’t say anything then …Yea, they would.

  • KT says:

    Wow! Great insight from you all….you all nailed it the T!!! Great job! This is a time for the Happy song!

  • Pete says:

    Gotta love the progressive/socialist implosion. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch.

  • Buford says:

    He was not a government official when the contract was signed. How would crossing a time line make turn what he already has into another “benefit” ? Grandfather policies don’t apply to republicans if democrats stand to gain. Two-faced hypocrits. Take advantage of all the tax breaks they create and make you out as a monster for abiding by the law they write to only enhance their own wealth and security.

  • parthenon1 says:

    He has already said he is cutting ties to his vast business holdings until after serving as president. If that isnt good enough then after he is sworn in he can issue an executive order superseding the current rule until he is out of office.

  • Tiger says:

    Stick it you lost. OHHHHHHHH that feels sOOOOOOOOOO Goooooooood

  • Askjrsk says:

    Let’s see democrats find this hotel a real problem. That is what their concern and priority is. Renting out the White House, selling the state department, uranium to Russia for nuclear weapons well that’s ok. No wonder people are disgusted! Lease out rooms in the White House and be done with it. Oh and wip retirement benefits and entitlements from congress and senate. Those are in direct conflict also. Help with the deficit ridding of all these entitlements.

    1. Rodney Steward says:

      A super Bingo my friend, nailed it!

      1. Askjrsk says:

        Thankyou. Bobbinballs is a scammer!

    2. MarcoPolo says:

      If you just suggested that all benefits to retiring Politicians be reduced to ZERO? Then I TOTALLY agree with you!
      Let’s make THAT happen!
      I think Democrat AND Republican Citizens would agree on that!!!!

      1. Askjrsk says:

        I did and I do. DRAIN THE SWAMP. Politicians should not get rich off of being parasites or selling government or getting rich from corporations after spending taxpayer dollars for contracts that provide personal side benefits. Should be against federal law.

  • Rodney Steward says:

    Boy, what a fine group of racist Dems sending a letter like that, all he has to do is claim it a foundation, it worked for Hellary!!

    1. Askjrsk says:

      Absolutely. Lincoln bedroom for sale or rent.

      1. Rodney Steward says:

        Didn’t Hellary sale it, and stole a lot of other stuff!

        1. Askjrsk says:

          She sold or stole anything not nailed down

  • Bob says:

    This “Deputy Director” obviously does not speak for the GSA, just to Democrats who like what they told him to say. The GSA put out a statement saying they have NOT determined if his leasing the space will be in conflict as yet. He is placing his company and his assets in the care of his sons and has informed them that no new deals until he’s out of office. A far cry from a President picking which company or industry gets massive government bail outs, and choosing one he may have ties to.

  • DrBillLemoine says:

    Trump has much bigger problems with his current course of action than contract violation over his DC Trump Tower, bad as that might be. He’s about to violate the U.S. Constitution if he doesn’t divest himself of all real estate holding abroad, as a conflict of interest. Owning property abroad which receives consideration by foreign governments, benefits of any value, like property taxes, bookings, defense/guarding of physical property means he is receiving money or its equivalent–violating the emoluments clause. That makes him subject on Day #1 for impeachment as a ‘high crime or misdemeanor’. Take your pick. Either is a problem resolved by Trump selling all his holdings, putting them in a ‘blind trust’, not one run by his family, and keeping the kids out of government.

    1. Askjrsk says:

      Oh my just like HILLARY foreign investors and governments giving her money. Which she laundered and used for private gain. Those in direct conflict with our government. Big trouble here. New rule book. New declarations by democrats because it’s a New president.

      1. DrBillLemoine says:

        You have no proof that Hillary accepted anything from anyone while in office. It’s simply a right wing taking point, maybe spread with commie Putin’s help. Are you a commie? There was further no laundering. All those charges have been unproven by multiple congressional and private investigations, so you are purely partisan keeping your false charges.
        Now what about your position on Trump violating after inauguration the Constitution’s emoluments clause which is provable starting today? Are you also two-faced?

        1. Askjrsk says:

          Oh sure right oh you got me I’m totally convinced. Ya sure ya betcha ha ha!!! Look it up if you want facts and figures not FALSE NARRATIVES and FAKE NEWS propaganda. You’re sold out.

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            I keep tabs daily on developments. What am I missing beyond your delusionary ‘facts’?

        2. Askjrsk says:

          We are not easily fooled. Too bad about you

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            After congress, FBI and private agencies dropped pursuit of Hillary, why is it you still hang on??? lol Could you actually not know you have been fooled? lol

          2. Askjrsk says:

            You are a fool. I believe you are a fraud you are a con. Convuluted facts all you present. Conversation with a con is futile.

          3. DrBillLemoine says:

            A fool ignores information and data input from valid sources. YOU? A fraud still spreads disinformation, like the Russians, about money laundering and receipt of cash against the law when authorities drop the charges. YOU? A con continues to press phony stories when disproven to most of the world. YOU?

          4. NM Leon says:

            “A fool ignores information and data input from valid sources.”

            Yes indeed, so why do you ignore reality?
            Here’s thwe actual emeils proving you are (as usual) full of schitte.

          5. DrBillLemoine says:

            So what is the source of this document? Provide a timeline showing that the SecState hasn’t yet requested Requests for Performance RFPs from contractors seeking work legitimately. Where is the background document showing Hillary was ever involved in this process. You gotta provide some context and common sense with sourcing as well. And you call yourself a contractor??? You don’t know this stuff??? Or are you slanting your information???

          6. NM Leon says:

            Are you really that stupid?

            The source is the US Department of State, plainly displayed at the top and bottom of each page, and each email has both date and time.

            “Provide a timeline showing that the SecState hasn’t yet requested Requests for Performance RFPs from contractors seeking work legitimately.”

            An RFP is a Request for PROPOSAL, not performance, lol, and the government sends them to the prospective contractors, not the other way around.

            “Where is the background document showing Hillary was ever involved in this process.”

            Uh, newsflash, Billy Boy, Hildabeast was the Sec State.

            You really are an ignorant fool, aren’t you?

          7. NM Leon says:

            Uh, newsflash, Bill Boy the FBI is still investigating.

            What private agencies do you think were investigating Hildabeast?

            Why is it that you keep repeating the same lies? Could you actually be delusional enough to believe them?

          8. DrBillLemoine says:

            Must you be so boring? You ignore common knowledge about so much, your understanding is about an inch deep. How is it you are not aware of private individuals stalking Hillary just as you stalk me? Your drumbeat of lies isn’t hidden by accusations of me. It’s really sophomoric and tiresome.

          9. NM Leon says:

            Must you be so stupid? You pretend that there’s this “common knowledge” thing, meaning anything you say without ever backing up a statement with any evidence or sourcing. When you (God help us) taught in school, did you allow students to make “statements of fact” without substantiation?

            I have exposed any number of your lies here in these forums, what lies do you think I have told?

            Are you changing your statement to private individuals instead of private agencies? Do you understand the difference in the definitions of “individual” and “agency”?

        3. Askjrsk says:

          Are you a commie? Doctor of what? Where? Or just a communist con artist?

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            Are you unable to defend yourself, so turn the conversation to the messenger? Won’t work–you are disqualified from debate.

          2. NM Leon says:

            And you are disqualified from independent thought, relegated to just parroting the libtard talking points.

        4. dorcus says:

          Oh but there is proof! OB is just suppressing the facts. The same, as done his whole presidency! You just don’t want to except the facts! In time the truth will come out!

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            Even your future president is dropping pursuit of Hillary. Are you so deceived or so biased you can’t do the same? How is Mr. Obama suppressing facts about Hillary? Pure nonsense. Just what are your ‘facts’ that everyone else of any credibility has dropped by now. Do you think those folks/institutions want to risk their credibility ‘in time’? Nonsense. You better spend your time watching Trump who has already proven to be corrupt in nepotism, conflict of interest and more.

    2. Rodney Steward says:

      He could go to running guns like Opey and Hellary, and this is just one of the many reasons why these 2 were kicked into the ditch this election! Everybody wants to forget Opey, and wanted no part of the slut!

      1. DrBillLemoine says:

        Pure delusion and partisan stuff. This nation sells armaments to allies; it’s not gun running.
        Maybe you believe that charge but it’s nonsense, perhaps foisted on you by commie Putin. Are you a commie, too?
        And how do you reconcile Obama saving the nation from Depression?

        1. NM Leon says:

          I guess you missed “Fast and Furious” in your “keeping tabs daily on developments”?

          Obozo saving the nation from depression? Even the left wingers say you’re full of schitte..

        2. Rodney Steward says:

          Obama hasn’t saved shi$, my God, no wonder your party has an a$$ symbol, and you’re a D’N teacher, no wonder our schools are now marked as brainwashing centers!

          1. DrBillLemoine says:

            First, all public schools are to some degree (determined by states and local boards) brainwashing students. It’s called common knowledge and culture of Americans, genius. And your sophomoric smearing of this messenger smacks of the worst dictatorships of the past 100 years. Are you a commie or Nazi sympathizer as your posts show???

          2. Rodney Steward says:

            Your party is known for it’s communist likes and acts, have no use for Nazi’s, and I’m just a good ole country boy that wants his country back, schools and all! And by the way, whom is the messenger being smeared!

          3. DrBillLemoine says:

            Are you truly in denial that Pres.-to-be Trump is a commie sympathizer if not card carrying member, considers the top Russian kleptocrat a pal, hires as SecState the #1 enabler of that nation’s energy resource development, had a campaign manager Manaforte who directed the commie Putin-puppet of Ukraine (till the population ousted him for democracy), that Trump gets money from Russians while running beauty contests there, and more??? You are a stooge and ‘useful fool’ yourself.
            You haven’t learned anything about education from me by your current post, don’t connect Nazi and personal authoritarianism and deserve exactly what you are getting in Trump–American kleptocracy that puts our current fat cat plutocracy/bought government to shame. You do need better education than you got.

          4. Rodney Steward says:

            ANYTHING is better than the muslim POS we’ve put up with for 8 long years, telling the world how sorry the USA is, kissing every muslim ass on the planet, and just gave Iran more Nukes than needed to whip out the world with their sick caliphate! A dead horse would be better than Obama, and we all know it was better than the NWO Slut! The American people are sick of this Obama and Hellary shi$, just a constant lie about everything and the foundation BS, the polls were a lie, popular for Hellary and approval ratings for Opey, and now the Russian BS made up by your own party and Opey! FBI Director, James Comey, and James Clapper of the National Intelligence Agency both agreed that NO Russian involvement at all! The only one that said their was, the CIA Director, John Brennan said their was a problem, and why, what is the one thing that Opey and Brennan have in common, both are MUSLIM and have had ties to the White house muslim brotherhood, that go by CAIR! Now, between the Dem. party and the muslim infested CIA, we now have a Russian hacking problem!! You sick puppies!!

          5. DrBillLemoine says:

            I sincerely hope you live to regret those opening words. In 1968 I predicted a crook in RMNixon. I’m doing the same for Trump before he takes office–more blatantly evil. You will regret not having a civilized president, who treats people equally, takes realistic stands, and got things done despite congress’s tail Freedom Caucus wagging the Republican dog for 6 years and stonewalling everything including a Supreme Court nominee.
            Perhaps you don’t understand polling or other sciences, truth spun on the right as lies (ala ‘1984’), the meaning of real popularity, election interference from abroad and domestically and more.
            I feel sorry for your fearful nature, your ignorance of religious truth, your misunderstanding of using Muslim spies and a presidential candidate calling for foreign hacking and ignoring its effect. That’s what’s sick!!!

          6. Rodney Steward says:

            Well Doc, I hate it that you’re a pathetic FAR LEFT Dem. that believe’s that everything in the world kept Hellary from winning, when the truth was everybody was sick of Obama and that Hellary said she would follow in his foot steps, and it made everybody sick at their stomach, and like the popular polls for Hellary, the approval ratings for your Prez., was a big LIE

          7. DrBillLemoine says:

            Think about this fact–Hillary WON the POPULAR vote by millions and counting. Voters preferred her to Trump but that anachronistic Electoral College, designed to keep American presidents from cowtowing to or becoming kinds is no longer applicable. (Though in Trump’s case with worldwide banks financing him, foreign governments aiding his property holdings and Putin hacking to install him–maybe the EC will elect Pence instead). Perhaps you don’t believe in equal treatment under the law, or law and order obedience instead of anarchy, or paychecks that don’t provide a living wage, or pursuit of happiness for all. That’s what Obama advanced where he could; Hillary, too. The polls were clearly overweighted for Dems, not properly balanced for interviews/answers. And the term for me is progressive which is not ‘far left’.

          8. Rodney Steward says:

            The slut DID NOT WIN the POPULAR VOTE, it was like the polls for Trump and Opey, all BS! This woman got beat bad and the POS hasn’t been sober since! If this country doesn’t put Trump in that won the election, it’ll be a civil war from hell! And guess what, the military will be on our side, because almost all of them HATE Opey and Hellary!! I know, I have 3 family members in right now, just like a very long line of family members were, and that counts me!! More people bought guns under Obama than any other Prez. in history, he was not trusted just like Hellary!!

          9. DrBillLemoine says:

            You need better sources of data and news if you think Hillary didn’t win the popular vote going away. Stay relevant and current.
            If any Electoral College member doesn’t vote for Trump on the basis of his commie ties, lack of transparency about taxes and no divestment of his personal holdings, I won’t be surprised. That’s our democracy at stake. Trump acts more like Putin and Russian kleptocrats than an American citizen.
            You are quite deluded if you think sworn defenders of the Constitution against foreign and domestic enemies, not fellow citizens will support your ‘coup’. That’s 3rd world talk, not from a US citizen. No amount of public service justifies overthrowing Constitutional processes as you describe. You must be on someone’s watch list for that terrorist talk. And the prez is more popular than most presidents leaving office in modern times–more disinformation for and by you.

          10. Rodney Steward says:

            Sorry Doc., we just had a 3rd world President and a so called first lady with bigger arm than him, when most people know she was a fresh plucked tree monkey with lipstick smeared on it’s face! Sorry, his approval ratings were a lie just like Hellary’s poll numbers that people like you took for granted that the bitc$ would win, but real Americans were sick of likes of you!! Get over it Doc. no free college for these stupid Millennial’s now, HA, HA, ! Now maybe we’ll have real teachers and can these socialist idiots that need killing!

          11. DrBillLemoine says:

            What is a ‘third world president’ and how did he get elected twice?
            Your obvious bigotry discounts everything else you say here.
            Still denying reality with polls, who are ‘real Americans’, why wages have stagnated, where teachers come from? In America we don’t threaten citizens with death like Putin, Xi, Castro, Assad, Maduro and the other dictators of the world. You portray yourself as un-American.

          12. Rodney Steward says:

            He never went in legal the second time, PERIOD, he was put in! Here you go – http://www.westernjournalism,c… This is real, look at it all, this is your 3rd world monkey!!

          13. DrBillLemoine says:

            Take a civics course. Electoral College verifies eligibility for the presidency, twice for Obama. More phony reference to an unknown source, bigot.

          14. Rodney Steward says:

            The electoral’s did their jobs, it was the dead and repeat voters and the Soros voting machines, till this day, there is over 3 million illegal voters still on the books, that has not been taken off !!

          15. DrBillLemoine says:

            You can’t have it both ways. Either a candidate is eligible (forever) or not. And you haven’t absorbed the ‘truth’ of insignificant voter fraud anywhere after many studies this century. Your beef is with registrars of voters who are pretty reliable cleaning their books to follow the law of their states. You are guessing, spinning, spewing propaganda or just plain unknowledgeable of what’s going on.

          16. Rodney Steward says:

            And you are just a typical Dem. refuse to accept the truth on anything, Soros spent millions trying to get Clinton in the house, but of course you won’t buy that either, and by your thinking, your definitely one of the bad guys in the brainwashing system! Where do you get your info., MSNBC or MSM, that would explain a lot!

          17. DrBillLemoine says:

            I get my information from a wide range of media, unlike you righties hogtied to your faux story sites. That’s how a demagogue like Trump can get over on you. Soros is but one source of Democrats billion dollars plus campaign funding. You have the Koch Brothers. So what?
            Mainstream media from coast to coast, north and south publish my letters and comments with honor. You are limited to a narrow sliver of misunderstandings and outright lies from these kinds of blogs. Politifact jumps all over your sources on the right for many falsehoods.

          18. Rodney Steward says:

            Well the Koch Bro. don’t have a hit on them by Russia like the Soros, he’s like the Clinton’s, should be dead, but time will tell! Are you some famous Dem. from coast to coast that blows smoke up everybody’s butt! I don’t give a shi$ about coast to coast BS or what anybody else thinks! I speak my mind, don’t like it kiss my a$$, but D’N a bunch of Obama and Clinton loven Dems.!! Hat it that your BS don’t go over on these forums like it does coast to coast, that should tell you something!

          19. NM Leon says:

            And you are lying through your teeth, as usual.

            Alien Invasion in Virginia: The Discovery and Coverup of Noncitizen Registration and Voting

            Illegal Alien Voters Uncovered in Philly Are “Tip of the Iceberg,”

            Illegal Foreign Voting in Virginia Covered Up by Soros-Backed Democratic Officials, Says Report,

            Bombshell: Over 1,000 Illegal Voters in Eight Virginia Localities, Lifezette, October 2, 2016,

            Yes, Virginia, Aliens Are registered or Voting… and in Pennsylvania, by the Thousands, PJ Media, October 3, 2016, :

            Thousands of Illegal Aliens Registered to Vote in This State, The Political Insider, October 4, 2016,

            Voter Fraud Is Real: Here’s The Proof, The Federalist, October 13, 2016,

            National Conference of State Legislators, Voting by Nonresidents and Noncitizens (February 2015),

          20. NM Leon says:

            “Electoral College verifies eligibility for the presidency,”

            Jeez, and you claim to have a doctorate? The political party of the candidate verifies the eligibility and certifies it to the appropriate state official.

            The electors generally run for the position (at the party’s state convention) specifically to vote for the party’s nominee.

            Trump electors ran for the position to be Trump electors in just about every case.

            You really are kind of a dim bulb, aren’t you?

          21. Rodney Steward says:

            Here you go, this is your hero, look at it all, it’s the truth they’ve been working for for a while!! http://www.westernjournalism.c… can you handle the TRUTH!!

          22. DrBillLemoine says:

            Just because a blog site has the name ‘truth’ doesn’t make it truthful–your link does not refer to any citation, just the entire source which I have NEVER heard of before. So much for general truthfulness. Bet you use YouTube as another source, maybe Heritage Foundation–all phony and unreliable sources. Besides a link doesn’t make your point, only your own statement. Not much of a researcher.

          23. Rodney Steward says:

            Your mouth doesn’t make you right either, you’re just a typical left wing idiot that believes in all the fake news and bullshi$ that the Soros funded media spits out! Sorry Doc., your time to live in the real world, instead of the lowering of the standards for the black Prez.and schools!!

          24. DrBillLemoine says:

            I think you’ll find that false news sites and products are read by conservatives, not progressives. And calling fellow citizens ‘idiots’ is both sophomoric and diminishing of your message. I’m an adult, not a wannabe teenager. Soros means nothing to most of us; it’s a right wing fear name you like there. With so many letters and comments of mine recognized by knowledgeable thoughtful people in and outside the media, I’d say I’m in the real world. You clearly don’t recognize quality education when you read its results here. Go back to school and learn.

          25. Rodney Steward says:

            Why do you have so many people on these forms that disagree with you like I do, that mean we’re all wrong, or do you pat yourself on the back with these other so called knowledgeable thoughtful people, must be co-workers that think like you!

          26. DrBillLemoine says:

            Over the eons of recorded history, truth has persisted despite spin, propaganda, lies and misrepresentations by your pals. My truth waits for no ‘agreement’; it’s still the truth, like it or not. Check out the New York Times Op/Ed page tomorrow and last Sunday for my good ‘Pick’ ideas acknowledged by readers and editors.

          27. Rodney Steward says:

            My God Doc., NOBODY trust anything coming from NYC this day and time, the state that’s like California, no morals, a communist mayor, bankrupt and living off the Gov., Sanctuary city that’s Unconstitutional! And another thing, I’m from the SOUTH, to he$$ with New York City, and you do know that NY is the prize for ISIS!!

          28. DrBillLemoine says:

            With your feelings about NYC and NY how do you justify voting for New Yorker Trump?

            What kind of American are you? As a US citizen, I don’t hate Birmingham or Little Rock though I think those people are misguided, bigoted, and short sighted.

            NYC is the target, not a prize, for barbarians and criminals who comprise ISIL.

          29. Rodney Steward says:

            I want Trump, because the tramp is a total loser like Obama and wants to follow in his footsteps, to finish off our country! And like you, I hate Birmingham and Little Rock myself!! They were talking about the New York Times this morning on Fox News that you far left freaks hate because the truth hurts, of how it is about washed up, and this came from Trumps mouth on the show! Isn’t that just great!! Do away with Dr. and just stick with Billy-Bob, makes you look a lot better!!

          30. DrBillLemoine says:

            So you must be a covert commie sympathizer supporting Trump. He schmoozes with Putin, takes loans from Russians, hires Putin puppets, praises the Ruskie leader–you are soft on communism unlike most Americans.
            Without Obama, with either McCain or Romney we’d still be in Depression. Count your blessings. Post-Ailes Fox may actually be telling the truth; I haven’t had the notion to tune in yet. But I’ve read the NYTimes since I was a child and always found it truthful and revealing.
            I suppose your truth includes the faux news and false data blogs I also peruse. One has actually banned me for telling the truth. Never the NYTimes, Washington Post (both rate me superior in comments), Orlando Sentinel, Miami Times, Los Angles Times, Chicago Tribune–all substantial papers influencing millions, but not you shallow thinkers who don’t read much anyway in favor of videos and other talkies with pre-digested stuff.
            Unlike you with no avatar I post with my real name and title for accountability.

          31. Rodney Steward says:

            Well I’m not a muslim sympathizer, anyone that likes Opey, like the cult, and like you, both Romney and McCain suck, and if you get your info from all those 2nd rate comic books, no wonder your like you are, as far as influence, it must all Dems., because you’re all alike! And Hoss, I can’t get anymore real!! Are you an Atheists!

          32. DrBillLemoine says:

            Do you even know any Muslims? It’s pure fear of the unknown for you then. I have friends and clients who are better Americans than you in beliefs and living. It’s more bigotry from ignorance–your own lack of valid and reliable news sources. I haven’t read a comic book in decades, your news source, but you don’t read comics with strong American culture and beliefs. If you like Trump and not any other presidential politician, you are missing much of our American culture. You don’t even remember the Rev. Wright to-do with Obama 8 years ago showing he’s also a Christian. Your reality is in your own mind, a big void.

          33. NM Leon says:

            Billy Boy, you are around the bend. Your screed does not even parse in English (and you supposedly a holder of a doctorate).

          34. ezekiel22 says:

            I am sorry Doc but if you were to study Rev. Wright you would see that he is wrong. Yeah, that was intentional. He in no way even comes close to your version of Christianity.
            Black Liberation theology is nothing more than a racist enslavement of people and thought to an ideology rather than Jesus and His teachings. But he is busy being retired right now living in his newly built $2 million mansion. Sheep were shorn.

          35. DrBillLemoine says:

            You really haven’t studied or served under anyone with good sense of Gospel. If so, you’d know you can’t tell by looking or reading what’s in anybody’s heart. Wright for all his bluster and false teaching is still a Christian. There’s no evidence to the contrary as only God knows. So get off the connection of Obama to Wright aside from their being Christians. Discernment might indicate he’s apostate or reprobate.
            Only Gospel is acceptable Christian theology for personal living. Slaves and masters alike can be Christians. It’s not for you to judge. But why haven’t you remembered this from my many prior posts on the same subject?

          36. ezekiel22 says:

            Doc it is simple why I do not refer to your previous reflections. They are not balanced. You yourself have even stated as much. You ignore Hebrews: Jesus the same yesterday, today, forever. That means that the work of Jesus here on Earth is a lot deeper than just The Sermon on the Mount. That was or is a compilation of a Sermon He preached to many crowds outline His Kingdom.
            When it comes to the good reverend Wright I just look at his works and goals. They speak volumes.

          37. DrBillLemoine says:

            Christ said, ‘no one comes to the father but by me.’ That’s not balanced as you prefer to think. The way is ‘strait and narrow’, again not balanced. That’s why so many who call ‘Lord, Lord’ are unknown to the Master, will never see heaven. You are not truthful about Sermon on the Mount, the specific guidelines for Christians. That’s why it’s a feature of Gospel. These are plain truths take directly from written scripture, no spin needed, or balance. But God is forgiving as we must be also. Too many on this blog are not, a clear indicator, like those pastors I’ve mentioned by name and others who crossed the line into politics and are now chastened not to ‘balance’ God and mammon. They must serve one Master as directed in Gospel and have been edified for the time being. Also God’s hand is on the side of right, not might. NC’s anti-trans bathroom nonsense is an example; it’s going away; McCrory is defeated; supermajority legislators are chastised in terms they understand–lost economic opportunity as businesses go around NC. I always remember God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. Every word is recorded in the Book of Life pending Judgment Day. You could forgive Rev. Wright too.

          38. ezekiel22 says:

            No problem with forgiving anyone seeing as how I have been forgiving many times over and again. Rev. Wright needs to ask for forgiveness first and that is the Gospel formula.
            As far as the NC law goes the governor was correct in standing up. The arguments for the other side are at best fallacious.

          39. DrBillLemoine says:

            There is no first, or no forgiveness. We are told to forgive indefinitely and always–seven times seventy fold. Think of Christ on the cross and his words, forgiveness for all who know not what they do.
            The NC governor was wrong in court and public voting, let alone morally. His bigotry got its reward. There is nothing whatsoever fallacious about equal rights under our Constitution. Your civil rights are too personal, not general as our government dictates. Don’t you respect the Bill of Rights?

          40. NM Leon says:

            You are an idiot. The Bill of Rights no more gives a man the right to shower in a women’s shower than it gives me the right to shower in your master bath.

          41. ezekiel22 says:

            You brought up The Crucifixion so read the rest of the stories about it. He did say Father forgive them they know not what they do. The crowd responded that His blood be on us and upon our children unto the fifth generation. They rejected forgiveness and begged judgement. Sorry but had they asked forgiveness then maybe Jerusalem would not have been razed and the Diaspora never would have occurred. Go back to Zech. and Malachi to see when Jesus does return to Jerusalem. Like I have said before one forgives the other accepts or rejects. If this is not so then Christ died on the Cross for what since all will be entering into Heaven since His death was to forgive the sins of the whole world. This is taking your argument to its logical conclusion.
            To quote Madison our Constitution was designed for a moral people as under any other people it would not be sufficient. The question then begs as to who is a moral people? If you go by the consensus of the day that would be a Christian people. Gov. Benj. Rush signed both Const. and Declaration elaborating on this which you should read. Without an anchor and that would be the Bible we are a nation without mooring or direction.

          42. DrBillLemoine says:

            You seem to be suggesting that ordinary mortals’ beliefs, not Christ’s words be followed–not acceptable for the faithful. No stories replace The Word. You also seem to elevate vengeance from the Old Testament when Gospel says God is Love. More misinterpretation. Christians forgive whether it’s accepted or not. It’s our responsibility according to God. Then you substitute ‘logic’ for belief in the Words; as Christ came to save the ‘lost children of Israel’. Are you one? That could be all who accept him, not extended ‘logically’ to all but only those who believe. Your readings, study and listening to sermons, teachings is deficient, lacks explanation and understanding by you and/or your pastor. The scriptures are plain here. Try re-reading Gospel.
            Our Constitution was designed for propertied white males by moral framers. Their biases were/are evident today. Madison had no concept of 21st century America as you fantasize. Morality has no religion as all present a moral living. That’s today’s America, not Madison’s. Same for Rush. Yet I agree our nation needs morality from somewhere to make the Constitution usable–something Trump lacks and many of your base conservatives, i.e., KKK, women haters, racial supremacists, many military types. I prefer the moral Democrats to the ethically challenged business CEOs, separatist laborers, misogynist autocrats and just plain bigots on your side. In the end on Nov. 8th, the ordinary regular Republicans ran back to immoral Trump believing wrongly that Hillary was a lawbreaker, immoral, child molester and trafficker and other Republican boilerplate and false accusations instead of law and reason. Are you one?

          43. ezekiel22 says:

            You still like to twist what is said so that it fits your pre-set narrative?
            What I said concerning forgiveness stands. Not only that but it can be replicated by innumerable examples. That is something that your “teachers” failed to explain in exegesis. I will go to an extreme example right now that you are unable to refute. Every person in this world is already forgiven of all of their sins including the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Putin, Clintons, Trump, Assad; just to name a few. Every one of them are forgiven. The fact remains that unless they accepted the free gift of forgiveness made real by sacrifice on the Cross and proven by the Resurrection it is of no use. Are you that unfamiliar with the Wedding Feast of the Lamb? What you are trying to preach is “Universal Salvation” which in short says that God is love and all will be saved to Heaven. That is false doctrine.
            I do not accept your attempt at rewriting of history as fact so stop doing it. You know that the dems are the party of the Klan and I have the history to prove it. I also know that Shrillary praised ole Robt. Byrd the leader of the KKK. Yes, Virginia there are records of that. I am getting really entertained by the dems re-animating of McCarthyism which is their right since he also was a dem. The “new” more liberal dems want to re-invigorate the Jim Crow Laws which I find hilarious if it was not so sad. Can’t figure the logic in that.

          44. DrBillLemoine says:

            ‘No one comes to the Father but by Me’, Christ said. Do you seriously think Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc. have acknowledged Christ as the Son of God and the sole way to heaven, the ultimate forgiveness? Your teacher did not emphasize the strait and narrow path to salvation, and you didn’t get it by any chance. In any history book you can find, not one of those killers asked for forgiveness or was born again, as we say it.
            Your head knowledge of scripture isn’t matched by understanding its meaning, at least in this case. We’ve covered other cases of misunderstanding before this, but you take no ‘edification’ as the scripture advises.
            It’s you preaching universal salvation, not me, and I have said nothing ever to give you that impression.
            On to politics which your knowledge grasps about an inch deep. David Duke is a registered Republican. Steve Scalise R-La campaigns among the Klan’s white supremacists. You don’t know what you’re talking about and I know these people. You are living in the past, not today’s reality.
            The rest of your stuff is nonsense. Give your brain a rest; it’s overwrought. Dems for ‘Jim Crow’–ludicrous.

          45. ezekiel22 says:

            Hi honey. Your knowledge of scripture lacks substance. You see you just cannot bring yourself to admit I am right. Christ’ death o the Cross is sufficient for the whole worlds sins past, present, and future. It is not efficient unless you open the gift that God gives freely. You should see what is happening in the islamic world today.
            All of those people I noted did some very evil things true enough but since we have all sinned they are no worse than us. Without Christ. You might try to look up those guys past history and religion. And yes, you have given every impression of preaching universal salvation. You say that God is Love no matter what. Yes, I have informed you of other attributes of God but you will not/cannot bring anything but Love. Pretty shallow and hardly edifying.
            Seems you seen the truth of what I said about racism and dems by your complete lack of response to the Byrd issue. Now to watch mcCarthyism redux which is fitting since he was a dam. LOL

          46. DrBillLemoine says:

            What is this ongoing ‘honey’ address? Are you going queer on me? You misunderstand scripture despite any head knowledge. The Blood IS sufficient for all, but one must ask for it in baptism(repentance), walking the strait and narrow(with atonement) and continuing to improve one’s walk(edification). Apparently you stopped at baptism as the other two aren’t evident in your posts. Recall scripture that says ‘knock and the door shall be opened’; come to the Father only by Me; and with all your knowledge and understanding, pray for wisdom. It’s a lifelong walk, not just Sunday sermons, not just Tuesday Bible classes; not just Sunday school; not limited to choir scripts; not just good works.
            I leave it to God to judge us at the Pearly Gates, not your opinions. Tell me what religion was held by any of your ‘dirty’ list. As for Love, Christ said Himself God is Love. That’s good enough for me, combined with Christ’s 2nd commandment.
            Byrd would be a Republican today like most other Southern elected officials. Do you doubt it? Racism is everywhere but resides in the South outside big cities. What’s a ‘dam’?

          47. NM Leon says:

            “But why haven’t you remembered this from my many prior posts on the same subject?”

            Because no one believes or pays much attention to a libtard troll, Billy Boy, particularly one who has proven himself so often a liar, and one who has exactly ZERO of 15,000+ posts in 5 + years found worthwhile, even by fellow trolls.

          48. NM Leon says:

            Newsflash, Putin isn’t a communist, Billy Boy.

            “I’ve read the NYTimes since I was a child and always found it truthful and revealing.”

            You mean like Maureen Dowd deliberately misquoting GW to make it seem he was saying something he wasn’t? Or maybe The Jayson Blair plagiarism episode? Or did you mean trashing the Duke LaCrosse team as a gang of rapists – incorrectly? Or perhaps Regular mis-characterization of the Tea Party, while lauding Occupy Wall Street?

            The NYT is a joke, and has been for years. It’s a left wing rag.

          49. ezekiel22 says:

            Actually I stopped subscribing to both WaPo and NYT. Both had truth issues so why waste money and time? Surprised you haven’t followed suit.
            In todays world it is hard if not impossible to be successful and not do business without dealing with Russia or China. Before you try to condemn Trump or any of his secretary or ambassadorial choices you need to fully make Killary innocent. It seems she signed off on giving the Russians 20% of our uranium. You might also check to see how much and who gave money to the Foundation immediately afterward. That would make her a pretty easy person to do business with according to the Russians. Considering how easily her private servers were hacked even with her knowledge of security threats ahead of time she would be an easy mark. You need to be more even handed on your criticisms.
            You criticize people for no avatars or names. I kinda told you why a bit back. To reiterate why let me just say that it is a safety thing. If I so chose to I could publish your home address really easily. Seeing as how I have witnessed radicals assault people, harass innocents, physically damage property over the years I would say it is a good thing we don’t.

          50. DrBillLemoine says:

            Any reporter or editor can be mistaken, omit checking of alternate sources, tell lies. That doesn’t diminish the entire newspaper as you have arbitrarily decided. It’s the bulk of the issues that determine, the reason some blogs are faux news as identified lately, including many of those read or written by folks I’ve come across in the conservative media online. I’d rate them as above average in veracity and details on issues though I disagree with some of the writers and editors.
            And they like me at both outlets.
            What is this new connection your mind has concocted? Hillary must be ruled innocent before Trump appointees can be condemned? It’s you going over the edge–no connection whatsoever.
            Careful attention to Hillary’s statements would show you she’s not tech savvy. So your critique must apply to her techie as she did nothing illegal. Still you act like a dog with a bone you wont’ let go.
            With the uranium situation, are you aware that nations from around the world gave us their unsecured radioactive substances including uranium. Why not give some to Russians who are secure–we think.
            You confuse ‘safety’ of anonymous posting with lack of accountability/transparency. On your side of the political line, there’s a big ethical problem with truth, not found so much on the left. Anonymity is a crutch for cowards, crooks and liars. Anybody in the world can google me and get much data and the truth. My stats won’t do much good with my security provisions in place. You readily excuse the wackos and malcontents, the abusers and even crooks who post with impunity now. However it’s emerging that a lawsuit against Facebook and Twitter, possibly other defendants, is aborning to have them police their sites for such people as can be identified. It still doesn’t address the yahoo who couldn’t stand the truth and banned me from his blog without cause or due process, without so much as a ‘flag’. That’s different from physical ‘assault’, harassment, damages you mention for which I am prepared. One of my cyberstalkers even crows how I have few up votes on his site of choice. Truth knows no such kudos, legitimate writers wait for no approval.

          51. ezekiel22 says:

            Sorry to bother you but you are apparently ill informed but that’s okay. Your stats for security means nada to anyone with a modicum of smarts.

          52. DrBillLemoine says:

            Too vague again. What’s ‘ill informed’ and ‘stats for security’? You’ve been reading too much fiction again. This is America, not a third world country where vendettas and vengeance abound. Or stop the smoking, snorting or drinking. Have trouble with strokes?

          53. NM Leon says:

            Too funny, you who never source your material or give detailed stats claim someone is “vague”?

          54. NM Leon says:

            It’s a longtime libtard troll, the first poster I’ve ever seen with ZERO upvotes. He doesn’t actually debate, showing sources, data, etc, the best you will ever do engaging him is to show him for the fool he is.

          55. NM Leon says:

            Anybody that tells lies is a liar. That’s why you have zero credibility.

          56. NM Leon says:

            You are calling the 73% black population of Birmingham or the 42% in Little Rock “misguided, bigoted, and short sighted”? Or were you referring to the Dem city governments?

            What kind of American are you?

          57. NM Leon says:

            “Check out the New York Times Op/Ed page tomorrow and last Sunday for my good ‘Pick’ ideas acknowledged by readers and editors.”

            Really, got a link?

            The NYT search function can’t find you.

          58. MarcoPolo says:

            I think the reason there are any people on these forums, is because they wish to glean helpful information and share theories of how to go forward.

            But then, there are quite a few who simply like to spout off about things they know little about, but nonetheless feel compelled to give their opinion anyway! Be it true or false, to some folks, there is only THEIR way of thinking!

            I’ll be the first to admit, I may be wrong about many things! But let’s stick to facts, versus fiction!

          59. Rodney Steward says:

            I laid the facts out there, didn’t make up a thing!

          60. MarcoPolo says:

            Actually, I wasn’t referring to you.
            But there ARE times when we have ALL been wrong!

          61. Rodney Steward says:

            Yep, kinda looks that way!!

          62. NM Leon says:

            Newsflash Billy Boy, NONE of your comments have been found to be of any worth whatsoever, not even by other libtards. That’s what having ZERO upvotes means.

            Calling you an idiot is simply telling the truth.

          63. NM Leon says:

            You are truly an idiot Billy Boy. “Your own statement” is worthless without substantiation. That usually means providing a link. The fact that you never provide links just shows how worthless your statements are, backed by the fact that you have ZERO upvotes. Even other trolls usually have 10%-20% upvotes, you are the 1st I’ve ever seen with ZERO, truly a completely worthless idiot troll.

          64. NM Leon says:

            Hey Billy Boy, you seem pretty confident, want to put some money where your mouth is?


            Can’t take the heat? Then go away, troll.

          65. NM Leon says:

            Hilldabeast didn’t win jack schitte if you subtract all the illegal votes from her tally, but it’s irrelevant in any case.

            Whether a worthless troll like you likes the EC or not, they will vote Trump for president on Monday.

            Go to your safe space, suck your thumb, and pet puppies, but get out of the adult’s way. We have 8 years of your mess to clean up.

          66. NM Leon says:

            You have seriously gone around the bend, Billy Boy. You really should have attended classes more often, you might even have learned the definition of what a communist is. You would have known for example that a kleptocrat by definition is not a communist.

            Have you got any actual evidence that Trump is a communist sympathizer (if not card carrying member, lol) or are you just spouting schitte again?

            Rex Tillerson successfully negotiated business deals with Rosneft. That’s a heck of a lot better record than Hilldabeast or Obozo has.

            Manafort is a political consultant, like Jeremy Bird, the political consultant that Obozo sent to Israel to try to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

            Newsflash, idiot, Trump got money from everywhere he staged pageants…that’s what the business is.

            Does it take a lot of practice to achieve your level of stupidity, or did it come to you naturally?

          67. MarcoPolo says:

            Well said, DrBillLemoine! Well said!

          68. NM Leon says:

            Don’t try to get all righteous, Billy Boy, you are nothing more than a libtard troll, and a worthless one at that.

            “Common knowledge and culture of Americans”??? Surely you jest. During your career in education we have gone from #1 in Math Science and Reading to a dismal 27th in Math, 17th in Reading, and 20th in Science. Good job there Billy Boy.

            “Smearing” implies something untrue. It would be difficult to say anything negative about you that isn’t true.

          69. MarcoPolo says:

            If President Obama wasn’t the one who saved our country from the Great Recession, then WHO was?

            Apparently some people forget that it was a Republican who launched two Wars (costing Trillions of Tax Payers Dollars), and allowed Wall Street greed to tank the economy, yet somehow believe that the Democrats are to blame?! Really?!

            And so now we’ve got to deal with having another Neo-Conservative in power….Yikes!

          70. Rodney Steward says:

            Didn’t know he saved it, nothing has changed in 8 years other than more people have part time jobs, but the B-TARD has run up more debt than all the other Presidents in history combined, and that’s your great recession save! Then the clown had the big GREEN job Slyndra, where many millions of $$$ went missing and no one knew where it went but then ISIS popped up! And OH, we can’t forget the great Red Line that made him look like a fool, like so many things he’s done, like I’ll stop the war, but we’re still have dead men come home from the God forsaken place! And for the Neo you claim, he’ll be much better than the muslim SOB! Maybe you and Doc need to get together in his safe place and color!!

          71. MarcoPolo says:

            Apparently you don’t remember, but YES, President Obama DID save our economy from the Great Recession. Just not as robust as many would have liked. But we still have the major automobile manufacturers intact!
            • Millions more have Healthcare than did before!
            • Pre-existing conditions are no longer reasons to
            deny a person Health Insurance!
            • DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act) was successfully
            • The Consumer Protection Agency has reeled in the
            Banks from under serving and overcharging
            • Dodd-Frank is stronger for Consumers!
            And of course that’s just off the top of my head…there are many more positive accomplishments we can thank him for doing!

            Clearly you think President Obama is not (as he claimed) a Christian, so do you have some reason to believe a Muslim person would not make a good American President? And WHY?

          72. Rodney Steward says:

            MY GOD, you’re a lost cause too!! WOW!!

    3. dorcus says:

      Oh you mean like the Clinton’s and their foundation? That didn’t seem to stop them and doesn’t seem to bother the liberals! Hypocrites!

      1. DrBillLemoine says:

        In case you missed it, no body of congress or FBI filed any charges–no wrongdoing. Yet you hang on to that dry bone.

        1. NM Leon says:

          In case you missed it, the investigations are ongoing.

        2. NM Leon says:

          In case you missed it, neither the FBI or any “body of Congress” has the power to file charges. You should have taken that Civics class.

    4. NM Leon says:

      Well great day! You libtards will have grounds for impeachment! Yeah, be sure to let us know how that works out, Billy Boy.

  • teaman says:

    Out of all the dastardly deeds the totally mentally ill communist driven dummycratic idiots have come up with, this one take the cake. Wanting to come after the President Elect over a hotel in a building he saved from destruction and made into something profitable! Totally disgusting!!

    1. Askjrsk says:

      That’s a parasite government employee and how they work to destroy our country.

  • jemb says:

    Another ‘straw’ in the Dems attempt to get Hillary in the WH.

    1. Askjrsk says:

      They can’t stand it!!! HILLARY for prison.

  • rodstew says:

    Why can’t he do what shillary did when she became SOS? Didn’t she still have dealings with the Clinton Foundation? Uh, before you liberals start explaining how non-profits are different from hotels, understand we have the Clinton Foundation tax returns. ONLY 5% of what the foundation collected was ever given to charities.

    1. Rodney Steward says:


    2. Askjrsk says:

      Where’s the tax payments????

  • Rock says:

    I hope that everyone remembers which jerks cried and whined about Hillary’s loss during their next election cycle… Can you say GONE ? Suicide by $tupidity.

  • Rock says:

    What a bunch of crybaby whining A$$HOLE$ ! Talk about grasping at straws. With EVERY pointless thing they bring up, it makes MORE people hate and walk away form the Dems.

  • Not_Easily_Impressed says:

    Trump should hire a bunch of lawyers to craft a bunch of lawsuits and file them on inauguration day. Instant stalemate! And it serves them all right. Do it secretly and in the name of the common man.

    1. Askjrsk says:

      Beautiful! Brilliant!

  • bobnstuff says:

    Trump must keep his hotel. With him as President every foreign visitor to the White House will want to stay there. He can also sell them his name for on their buildings while staying there.

    1. Askjrsk says:

      Looking for your non existent balance sheet on your real big huge successful BUISNESSES HA HA HA

      1. Rodney Steward says:

        HA, HA, HA, OHHHH that was GOOOOD!!!

        1. Askjrsk says:

          Bobbinballs is a FAKE a fraud and a con.

          1. bobnstuff says:

            It would make no difference if I gave you my full financial statement, you wouldn’t believe me anyway. I notice that you don’t even have a profile so I guess you are just a paid troll anyway.

          2. Askjrsk says:

            What con man? No we don’t need any apples today. Don’t let the door hit you in the butt.

          3. NM Leon says:

            Says the libtard troll, lol.

  • Jose says:

    Keep digging demos, sooner or later you will find yourself in China (old presumption). Hope you do so we can cover the hole after you.

  • David Stewart says:

    Huh, Dims must be somewhat oriental, “death by a million tiny cuts” seems to attract them.Poor Trump, theyy’ll never relent, will they?

    1. says:

      Libtards are spinning their wheels…Grasping at every little straw. They have Nothing but one conspiracy theory after the other. They are so distraught, disgruntled, crushed and suicidal over their landslide defeat…It’s put them in a frantic frenzy…They don’t know which way is up… and it’s absolutely wonderful to watch. Trump loves it…He loves a good fight. God Bless America and God Bless Donald Trump…Merry Christmas !!!!

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