Rand Paul still searching for Obamacare replacement bill

by Sophie Tatum | CNN
March 4, 2017

Washington | Following a chaotic day attempting to locate a copy of the House GOP’s Obamacare replacement bill, Sen. Rand Paul, said Friday he’s still on the hunt.

“When we heard it was secret, we wanted to see it even more,” the Kentucky Republican told CNN’s Kate Boldaun in an interview, noting, “As we speak, my staff is still going around Washington looking for the bill.”

Paul also tweeted about his search Friday.

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  • Russell Patton Davis - Journal says:

    Russell Patton Davis
    109 Carolina Mountain Dr., Candler NC 28715
    Constitutional.Reset@gmail.com 828-356-5237
    March 16th, 2017

    The Honorable President Donald Trump
    The White House
    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
    Washington, DC 20500

    Dear Mr. President:

    Having heard and believed your plans to restructure and optimize the executive departments and the government’s role in health care and
    having heard what useless things Democrats and Republicans were saying
    I felt compelled to normalize the rhetoric by working to cancel out of the problem description as many redundant or extraneous terms as possible.
    What was left seems much easier to evaluate and solve.
    Even so it became evident that the hidden presumptions needed to be examined for any party’s appetite driven bias and deception.
    The holes left by missing references to reality became evident.
    These I filled in to an likely sufficient degree.

    The result is a description of the necessarily proper legal underpinning for the herein draft solution to the ObamaCare/RyanCare problem ( in a mere 688 words) which also applies in many other places like ED, VA, Food Stamps, IRS, Medicaid, Medicare, The Fed!
    Bad ideas like ObamaCare and its kind appear to be clearly authorized NO WHERE in the US Constitution.

    Plus, Consider the rhetoric around ObamaCare & RyanCare: The language appears to be entirely poisoned with progressive equivocations and dissemblance. There appears to be no way the the current rhetoric can get us back to right.
    I think we may have to start from first principles to define the problem correctly and so arrive at a correct solution.
    Consider this: Republican forms of government are incorporated by the people as constructive trusts where ONLY the people who are its citizens are at all times the Government’s ONLY beneficial owners. And the only sovereign owners (Trustors – Settlers) who can lawfully take up that vestment at the time of voting whether for elections, grand juries, trial juries or giving a single vote to their own testament. Slaves and chattel cannot have their testament heard even if they speak because their lies are all they can really own – even if that chattel is evidenced as being owned by a foreign power.
    * Consider how a CHATTEL may be gentled on the way to the rendering .
    * see your state’s UCC including the history of repealed parts so you can see how the fraud turning you
    * from Gods’ creation to being the state’s created chattel has progressed.)
    * But no amount of gentling words will ever mean that your witness as a mere chattel is truly heard by
    * any officer of the court of a gold colored collar on some flags filed. EVER.
    * NEVER answer anything that could be construed as being “Here am I” when an officer addresses you in
    * the verbal representation that is the verbal equivocation of the capitalized version of your given &
    * inherited name which is a state created TRUST CORPORATION. Instead answer ‘I am (fist given
    * name), son/daughter of (father’s given name) having sir name (fathers sir name) and (mother’s given
    * name) having sir name (mothers sir name) and born on day (#) of (month) in the year of God Word made * Flesh ( #year number A.D). I overstand your questions and statements. I am here and speak to you as
    * SETTLER and Sovereign TRUSTOR of the state TRUST Corporation whose all capitals name you
    * spoke.
    * In no way acquiesce to the officer’s repeated or rephrased or abbreviated presumption that you are mere
    * chattel which acquiescence would make everything that the officer says about you to be taken as true in
    * a banksters’ court of the gold colored collar on some flag’s field and that nothing you then say can be
    * heard even if you speak it under oath since the oath of a state slave is meaningless in such a court. If you
    * give in to the officer’s presumption the officer may lawfully summary execute you on the spot if the
    * officer can lawfully presume that you are just an ill tempered chattel.
    * Continued in the next text box as to build grounds for a strategy that will enable President Trump to both
    * 1) do plain duty is sweeping clean the Federal Courts of the obstructors for cause of their law breaking
    * and
    * 2) give end to the causes that make “The Black Lives Matter” folks incontinent with regard to their true
    * self interests.

    1) OWNERS:
    1.1) At the times of electing the trust’s officers the citizen-people are the trust’s legal owners for the purpose of electing officers.
    1.1.1) The limited and specific authority and the duty of the elected is sworn to for a term of office and only then do they become officers of trust and authorized legal owners for the trusts law defined beneficial purposes for the beneficial owners.
    1.1.2) Any wrongful or fraudulent distribution of benefit to private parties rather than the whole class of beneficial owners is likely achieved by private law masquerading as public trust (general) law and so is a felony perpetration of VA18.2-111 EMBEZZLEMENT and VA18.2-481(5) TREASON.
    * Please note that legislators are commonly immune from being criminally convicted for anything they
    * SAY in legislative session but not for anything acted or enacted. As agents and representatives of the
    * sovereign people that elected them criminally acting legislators may be indicted and tried in many
    * local jurisdictions. It is fitting that state governors and the POTUS make liberal use of PARDON upon
    * the virtue of PAROLE OATH. Perfection may not currently be expected of humans – but sincere
    * diligence rightfully is since it avoids criminal negligence. Please note that there is no statute of
    * limitations – even in the death that everyone faces. Proper pardon that “faithfully executes the laws”
    * should be widely sought and widely given and as soon as possible in all cases. The “Go & Sin No
    * More” solution demonstrated by Jesus is too immensely practical to continue ignoring while our state
    * and federal Constitutions enable it. Please note that officers of the court commonly have immunity
    * in administering their office’s oath bound duty. Yet when they leave those bounds (as they daily
    * conclusively and openly evidence) under the mere color of their office their immunity only exists
    * because of their RICO gangs deep set of mutual imprecations. The only feasible way back to right is
    * by the POTUS’ and the State Governor’s broad grant of PARDON under the virtue of penitent
    * PAROLE OATH. Virginia’s Cory Stewart, Emmanuel Peter and/or Denver Riggleman as Governor
    * could be very useful to you considering how you might be able to use Virginia’s law in its cleansed and
    * properly lawful courts. Given your rate of accomplishment you might find the time and utility to even
    * moderate a debate between Virginia’ gubernatorial candidates.

    BENEFITS (Payment for service rendered to the trust cannot be a benefit but can be a commerce defined duty.):
    1.1.3 Because of its great economy and increasing yields the distribution of *Public Goods* are the first duty of the officers of trust. Public Goods benefit all legal beneficiaries and are more valuable to the beneficiaries as a whole and to each individual beneficial owner the more widely and fully it is possessed by each beneficial owner.
    1.1.4) One such Public Good benefit is the law and the security it provides against all manner of boundary violators and usurpers. Good commerce cannot prosper without public goods.

    1.1.5) Public law may distribute a private good to the individual human body of a beneficial owner so long as the distribution is equally distributed to all the trust’s beneficiaries in the public. Such is properly considered a DIVIDEND from the operations of the incorporated government to each equal shareholder-citizen in its sovereign legal owner capacity.
    1.1.6) This 1.1.5)is not apt to be economical unless some public good arises from that distributed private good.

    1.1.7) Reducing the invasive proper-boundary violating nature of government is one such public good. The distribution of a self-managed Health Care Trust Fund to each beneficial-owner can totally eliminate ObamaCare, Medicaid and Medicare. The Veteran’s Administration Hospitals can be reduced to near zero. Draft Legislation to achieve this attached in a following comment. The distribution of a self-managed Housing Trust Fund to each beneficial-owner can totally eliminate HUD and several other agencies. The distribution of a self-managed Education Trust Fund to each beneficial-owner can totally eliminate the ED and the wrongful public school system monopoly. An annual dividend from a National End-Use Sales Tax can eliminate the IRS & food stamps. As detailed in the to-follow post of Franklin Heath Care Individual Trust Act: The use of the US Treasury Note called the Franklin for these benefit distributions to the beneficial owner can be used to gently and profitably-to-the-nation establish the means by which we can become a five currency nation so as to reward domestic thrift and productivity while fairly protecting our country from a flood of repatriating dollars while once again offering the export to a grateful world the most honorable, safe and convenient currency for international trade. (US Treasury Note called the TON convertible to assets of several species (steel, concrete cement, grain, grapheme, etc. All commodities in which our countries natural wealth gives us some relative advantage.) While vastly deprecating the agency of the privately owned for private good, Federal Reserve Bank.

    Cotton, Cruz & Paul get it kind of right, Ryan gets it all wrong.
    No one in DC seems to be getting mostly right..
    Maybe the following draft legislation is more right than any other so far.
    Radically Conservative measures are used to create a result that will pull the rug from under Pelosi & crew.
    It appears we have time to get ObamaCare properly repealed.
    Politically speaking that will require a PROPER replacement, also.

    Please suggest improvements in the wording or content.
    The draft in a mere 688 words follows :
    ObamaCare Repeal & Replacement Act
    Franklin Heath Care Individual Trust Act
    The Each and Every Human Citizen Individual Health Care Trust Act.
    Congress Finds:
    1.1) The conventional structure of the health care argument is designed to make the citizens lose to the legal-medical industrial complex that is ultimately bankster controlled hence functionally owned.
    The real parties of interest can be stripped of deceitful camouflage.
    None of the parties have any just reason to be parties if not for the #1 prime owner, that is the ultimate customer.
    1.2.1) Every lie in health care serves to strip THE CUSTOMER of human of dignity and turns them by degrees into a chattel, into a legal person and not a human.
    1.2.2) It appears the every such 1.2.1) possible economic transaction does that based upon fraudulent-by-deception use of the Uniform Commercial Code.
    Strictly speaking those who are knowingly party to that abomination are party to as many as seven criminal and biblical abominations as their professional custom.
    1.3) This the cheapest, best and most health and liberty producing health care legislation to date will find that it answers all arguments against it having legitimacy. That is the legitimate reservation or argument against it must be free of factual falsehood, equivocation, dissemblance and logical fallacy.

    Therefore Congress establishes:
    2.) That this act establishes the bounds of the US government’s exclusive legitimate interest in the health care
    2.1) which is limited to the legitimate beneficial-&-legal owners(BOs) of the trust incorporated that is the only lawful government of the united states of America;
    2.2) except minimally including other persons that are conclusively evidenced as being so negligent (liable or guilty) of their own health care that they are physically a health hazard to other proper owners;
    2.3) and that except within the 2.2) exception all owner-beneficiaries of the trust will be exclusively authorized to *self-manage their own health care expenses* up to consumption of the balance of equity in that individual human health care trust.
    This provision 2.3) will remove most evil producing confusion within the heath care industry because the ultimate buyer and payer is the customer.
    Good stewardship and thrift in health-care self-management will now have proper reward.
    2.4.1) Given the current expected value of the average lifetime health costs of legitimate owner-beneficiaries (very roughly $200,000) the treasury is here by commanded to issue a book entry credit into a trust account for every proven legitimate US citizen in that amount of treasury note *Franklins* convertible into Fed Note dollars at the Congress assessed *inflated value* of fed note dollars value for a basket of typical medical services as Congress may determine from time to time.
    2.4.2) Congress also finds that these provisions gives BOs’ great motive to be frugal while making every investment in preventative health care the BO deems to have likely profitable consequence.
    2.4.3) Congress also finds that these provisions make the health-care market customer driven (rather than attorney-AT(not IN)-law driven) and so competitive for customers is it reasonably expected to cause the cost of heath care to drop while its cost-effectiveness increases.
    2.5) Value within the beneficial owners(BO) health-care trust may by the fully proper witnessed command of the BO be
    2.5.1)bequeathed to another BO in last will & testament or
    2.5.2)freely granted to another BO without compensation if the BO is over 70 years of age or,
    2.5.3) freely granted to another BO at anytime in so much as the asset balance of the BO’s trust exceeds its originally granted balance.
    2.5.4) Any party may grant money to a BO’s health-care trust.

    3.1) The Veterans Administration’s Health-care service will embrace open market services for the veterans.
    3.2) A BO in military service will receive a contribution to their health-care trust fund as part of their pay in so much as Congress determines.
    3.3) Congress also finds that by this method the US veterans will become the honored customer rather than a grudgingly accepted expense.

    4.) Congress also finds that now the government is largely out of the health care business except for the CDC and the military.

    5.) ObamaCare is therefore absolutely repealed.

    Drafted by Russell P Davis on March 9th in the year of God’s Word Made Flesh 2017

    Thank you for your kind consideration of this offering.

    Russell P. Davis

  • justinwachin says:

    The repeal votes for cheap political points are over. It is now time for Congress to come up with a replacement plan. Dr. Paul should be in on the design since he is a health care professional. We don’t need to replace one secret mega-bill with a different one. The replacement needs to actually provide a free market solution which will encourage competition and efficiency while protecting those with pre-existing conditions.

  • dmttbt says:

    The election went just the way it should have. We have people like Schumer who is afraid he is either going to have to get an honest job or go to prison. His niece is suppose to be the comedian and she isn’t good at it either. If people are going to watch Sat. night Live and go by that we are in big trouble. All the late night shows are tremendously democratic. Seth Myers or whoever that is is the most ignorant person I have ever seen to be wanting to be taken seriously

  • dmttbt says:

    Lets see now the democrats are saying that Trump was totally voted in by things the Russians did or said or wrote or some kind of crap like that. They want to overturn Trumps election. Obama said in the last months of Hillary’s campaign that there is no way the election can be stolen. I hope bobnstuff gets a good education on a site that is reverse of what he thinks.
    If these idiots could stop and look at what all they have said and done they will even se how stupid it is.

  • Ken says says:

    I’ve waited 17 months to see Rand’s plan and he has yet to show one. I’m beginning to think that he’s another Professional Politician – sure is more profitable than being a Doctor.

    1. mudguy1 says:

      We have waited for 6 years what the GOP’s plan is. All we hear is more about replace than repeal. The promise was “Repeal every word of Obamacare” We want control of our healthcare insurance plans and not the Government telling us what plans we can have.

      1. dmttbt says:

        The government decided they should be in the insurance business. That statement alone is enough. When the government does it, kiss your rights and freedoms goodbye. They took policies and made them so good that nobody can afford them. Oh that is right I have heard of them doing that kind of thing before.

  • clem says:

    With all the leaks on everything, I would not let anything out, until it was ready for the voters to see. When something is leaked to the never Trumpers, the msm, the dems. and the shadow government those people throw up roadblocks to make sure there is turmoil, disinformation and push backs. Let them come up with a bill then let EVERYONE have access to it (NOT the” You must pass it to see what is in it” bull shit the Democrats pulled.

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  • bobnstuff says:

    So much for openness and doing things in the light of day. What are the Republicans afraid of? Last time I checked Rand Paul was a Republican and was a member of congress. The ACA had 9 months of open debate, will this one get the same? Are these people not public servants? Is this not the peoples business they are working on? What are they trying to hide?

    1. Webb says:

      “So much for openness and doing things in the light of day.”
      Really…The ACA had 2700 pages of rules and regulations that no one on the Democrat side even knew…9 months of Debate while the law was being put together by 100% Democrat, really open to the public?
      We are still finding out what’s in the ACA…
      What was Democrats hiding…we found out!!

      1. bobnstuff says:

        Every line was debated in public, the Republicans got 43 major changes and still didn’t vote for it in the end. Were you in a coma while it was being debated? They only averaged 2 pages per hour in debate. Ever minute was on C-Span for your viewing pleasure. The Republicans aren’t even sharing the bill with their own people for get letting the voters see what they are doing. They are planning to ram rod the bill through with as little debate as possible.

        1. Webb says:

          Trying to be civil…
          Yes it was viewed on C-Span but it was written in private, Republicans didn’t know all the rules and regulations involved nor did the Democrats…
          Pelosi admitted that fact… ” We have to pass it to see what’s in it “…
          As for me, I hope there is No Deabte…Period!!

          1. bobnstuff says:

            I guess you don’t know a little fact, all bills are voted on twice. Once on the bill to be sent to the printers and once on the final bill once it has been printed and reviewed. So in fact Pelosi was right if they wanted to read the final bill they had to pass it so it could be sent to the printers. Every page of the bill was read in congress before passage. There were no secretes in the bill. Normally a bill this size would have been tweaked after passing but the republicans have blocked that so it can fail. They didn’t want people to like it so they made sure it couldn’t be fixed. They didn’t care that it was hurting the people as long as they could do damage to Obama. The problems could have been fixed long before now it the republicans had cared but they put there party first.

          2. gvette says:

            LOL..are you really that stupid?

          3. Webb says:

            Yes…to bills voted on twice!
            As I stated we are still finding out the pit falls of Obamacare…
            The worse law ever passed by One Party…Only!
            700 billion from Medicare…Games with The Doc Fix…A Mandate…Increase on Percentage % on student loans from 3.8% to
            6.8% tk support Obamacare…GREAT JOB DEMOCRATS!
            Repeal Only…

    2. gvette says:

      9 months of open debate? It was in someones drawer for years. The dems voted it in. You didn’t have a clue what was in it.

    3. dmttbt says:

      Bob I don’t know what you do but I can’t imagine you are any good at it at all. Maybe you are one of those politicians.

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