If your goal is an outright gun ban, you need to use terms such as “common sense gun legislation” to fool the public, a Hillary Clinton campaign delegate admitted in a recent undercover sting video released exclusively to Infowars.

“Saying you want to ban guns altogether, that’s going to piss everybody off,” the Clinton alternate delegate, Mary Bayer, told a Project Veritas reporter.

Instead, Bayer revealed, Democrats use “moderate” language when it comes to guns to obscure their true purpose, a complete elimination of the Second Amendment.

“You have to take that sort of moderate… ‘We just wanna have common sense legislation so our children are safe!’” Bayer told the reporter, adding, “You say shit like that, and then people will buy into it.”

Bayer also admitted Hillary “for sure” would support banning guns, and said the only way to actualize that goal would be to “get Democrats in office.”

69 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • PK says:

    First watch some videos of the Holocaust before those of you who own guns before you consider to give them up

  • Dick Ellis says:


  • Resbo says:

    COMMON SENSE gun legislation? Great let’s start out by having a COMMON SENSE government!

  • Luke says:

    When you run abortion death camps as the liberal borg do you’re an azzhole to say you’re trying to protect the kids from guns..
    liberals are liars, thieves and outright scum IMHO..

  • Lorraine E says:

    To see what hillary Benghazi clinton has planned for Americans watch the You Tube “Innocents Betrayed.” If she is appointed as commander in chief a many good Americans will die because we know what she is and will fight for our Second Amendment Rights. Learn about the clintons in the “Clintons death toll documentary” on line

  • justinwachin says:

    The next president will probably appoint four or five Supreme Court justices. The Court can do the dirty work that the politicians don’t want to do. The current court decided that they could override scores of state marriage amendments and redefine marriage. If a Democrat president fills Scalia’s seat the full assault on the second amendment will begin.

    I’m not a Donald Trump fan, but he is the only hope we have for appointing decent justices to the Supreme Court. Hillary will appoint justices that will make the current court liberals look conservative. Can you imagine how messed up our country will become when Kagan, Sotomayor and Ginsburg are seen as conservatives?

    1. Rodney Steward says:

      ==== WAR!

  • Patriot47 says:

    I have learned through many painful years of experience to never look to gubmint for common sense.

  • Mike V99 says:

    These arrogant statist demorats think all gun owners are a bunch of rubes and hayseeds. We bumpkins are all supposed to be too stupid to figure out what they are up to! They won’t be happy until they learn first hand what 150 grains of copper jacketed lead moving at 2800 fps does when it smacks them in the very fat foreheads.

  • Larry says:

    This kind of information could lead American to rebel in an unfortunate way. I believe in the constitution of the United States of America, something the demo-rats can’t believe in as they fight with the devil as their leader.

  • bentonsv says:

    This is just standard operation procedure for Democrats/liberals/progressives/communists/socialists. First use seemingly benign code words to lull the low information masses into agreement and complacency. Then, by the time they start to wake up to what is happening, the fox is already reaping havoc in the hen house.

    Frankly, there isn’t a single Democrat/liberal/progressive/socialist/communist that should EVER be trusted! I’d like to see them all run out of the country on a rail.

  • SDofAZ says:

    Thus the attack of our constitution and our rights is imminent with the dems. Ready for NWO, the EU mess here in our country, obamacare continued, continued unemployment or under employment, hordes of illegal aliens sucking up any welfare and entitlements and all jobs created, unvetted moslime fanatics picking you off whenever and where ever they please, HB alien imports for the big business pals of the dems politicians who also suck up entitlements and welfare, open borders, etc? Yup, either don’t vote for Trump or just give your vote to Hillary. To the never trumps, just register as dems, you are fools. And remember, if you work you pay for all of the above, NOT big business!

    1. Shelly Shannon says:

      I can see why my post was boring, lol. You are completely right. I was just trying to give a quick summary rolled up into one sentence.

  • Shelly Shannon says:

    I’m sure everybody will just run to turn in their gun. This coming from a woman who has 20 security agents around her all the time. This woman is a joke. The most hypocritical nominee in history.
    GO TRUMP 2016!

    1. bobnstuff says:

      This person isn’t even a delegate, she’s a alternate delegate. I guess they could find a person who has actually meet Mrs, Clinton to talk to them. This story’s a joke but look at where it’s from.

      1. Shelly Shannon says:

        True! I have no doubt tho that if Clinton hits the White House she will try to step all over our second ammendment. Power and Control is all that drives this woman.

        1. Rodney Steward says:

          And the DEVIL!

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      2. Rodney Steward says:

        This slut has made the statement several times that she will get the guns and she’s also said that the Constitution needs some changes! The only changes that can be made is to do away with it, and that ain’t gonna happen without a war!

        1. bobnstuff says:

          So it’s OK to forget about the first and forth amendment like Trump is talking about but don’t touch the second. The problem with a lot of the second amendment people is that they forget that there are a bunch more. They also forget that it’s the job of the government to help safeguard the people.

          We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union,
          establish Justice, insure domestic
          Tranquility, provide for the common defence,
          promote the general Welfare, and secure the
          Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the
          United States of America.

          In case you have forgotten this is what our constitution is all about. So tell me again just how owning a gun that can kill 100 people per minute for fills these purposes.

          1. Worried Vet says:

            How does not owning it stop the killings. Japan yesterday 19 killed with a knife. Do we ban all knives. The point is if these sickos want to kill the laws mean nothing. Taking away the guns won’t help anyone but the elites. Germany few days ago a teen attacked with an axe I believe. Nice France 84 killed with a truck. All these countries have gun control. Stopping the influx of terrorist coming would be a good start to protect citizen. Mental health reforms would be a great start. Stop spending money on stupid crap like commercials for gun control and put it in the hands of mental health clinics. To stop this violence is common sense, not a knee jerk reaction of pulling on people’s heart strings.

          2. bobnstuff says:

            Had the guy in Japan had the guns we have he could have killed over a hundred people in the same time. You can’t stop the crazies but you can slow them down. I agree that the real problem isn’t guns but mental health but since there is no one like the NRA pushing for health care or taking care of our mentally ill in our country all we can do is try to slow them down. Is anyone spending money on anti gun commercials? What we need is to get the NRA to stop trying to scare people into buying more guns. We need true common sense gun laws, ones that truly protect both gun owners and non owners.

          3. Rodney Steward says:

            What we need is to get people like your sorry a$$ to join the military and find out what real life is all about!

          4. bobnstuff says:

            I shoot a group you can cover with a half dollar, I grow up with blank 50 calibers shells in my toy box. The military didn’t want me. I’m one of the few in my family that didn’t get to serve.

          5. Worried Vet says:

            They got tons of common sense gun laws in Chicago, look how much good that does. A child was killed while doing her homework on her mother’s bed. I don’t see POTUS or blm out there calling to arrest the shooters. Gun laws didn’t help that baby. Mental health wouldn’t have helped that baby. So what’s the answer to stop the violence in places like Chicago and Detroit. If these so called gun control nuts used that money and energy on real problem solving maybe lives would be saved. The amount of money spent on gun Control, the time and free advertising by the liberal media could be turned around to fix real problems. The liberal agenda is more important than saving real people. We’re just pawn in a huge chess game to help them achieve their goals. When we wake up , then things will be done to save lives.

          6. bobnstuff says:

            Chicago can’t stop the suburbs from sending in guns. They can’t keep people outside their city from leaving guns around to be stolen. Any gun control must be national or we are just wasting our time.

          7. Rodney Steward says:

            Then you’re playing right into the hands of the NWO of the UN and Hellary’s foundation! IT’S ALL ABOUT CONTROL, just like climate change, they want to make changes on how we live, that’s the scam behind the climate BS, CONTROL!! They are brainwashing and dividing the people to achieve their twisted agenda, WORLD CONTROL! Ever watch the movie Hunger Games, this is the dream of the elite!!

          8. bobnstuff says:

            If you don’t believe in climate change explain why I can grow things in my garden that my dad couldn’t because we were to far north. and explain why there are places that the rising sea level is a big problem.Those changes in your life that are being pushed on you is improving you life and saving you money. They are making the world a cleaner and healthier place to live, in other words you are directly benefiting form those changes. As far as the NWO, that’s the boggy man that the right has created to scare you. You are buying into some of the biggest lies in history and you can’t see it. Can you name one world leader who would give up their power to someone else freely. Human nature would prevent a one world government. Look around, countries are breaking apart not joining together. Instead of believing the crap you are being fed think about things and look around. Ask yourself, does it make sense in the world you know?

          9. I am quite frankly surprised that HRC has not heard of you and appointed you her official mouthpiece. If you believe however, that “the NWO (is) the boggy man that the right has created to scare you,” I would strongly suggest that you continue to drink that wonderful KoolAid being served in the Oval Office. Hillary as President will just be a continuation of another four years of Obama rule.

          10. bobnstuff says:

            Name one world leader who would give their power this NWO. Name one world leader that would share their power.

          11. Worried Vet says:

            Most of the European Union. That’s the base along with the un for the NWO. 27 countries I think take orders from Brussels and pay the union to belong.

          12. You fool – Today’s so-called world leaders are not much more than puppets on a string, pulled by extremely powerful business leaders and “Old Money” influence peddlers.

          13. Until you show some signs of logic and common sense I will forgo further discourse with you.

          14. Worried Vet says:

            What do you grow your dad couldn’t and where. I have grown many things in 8 different states from Florida to Michigan. I would bet I’m older than you.

          15. bobnstuff says:

            I have an almond tree in my yard, my Dad tried for years to get one through the winter. We have people growing banana trees around here, when I was a kid you just couldn’t do it unless it was in a pot and you brought it in the house for the winter. They have changed my growing zone. We also have a tick problem that we never had. It’s staying warm longer we are not getting the snow cover we used too. This winter I road my motorcycle to work a lot. Our snake population seems to be growing. We just don’t get the winters we had years ago. We used to get an average of 7 foot of snow each winter now it around 5 foot 6 inches. I don’t care if it’s man made or not but there has been a change in our weather. We know the CO2 level is going up and we know that we have been producing CO2 and a larger and larger rate for a hundred years. I look at it this way. If we are causing the problem and do nothing we are in real trouble, if we are not but still do something the worst thing that happens is I get light bulbs that last 20 years and use 15% of the energy they used to. Personally I like clean are and clean water.

          16. Worried Vet says:

            Pollution is a much bigger problem because people are pigs. Companies are careless. But we cause Co2 because we breathe so what’s the solution cull the world population. Coal and oil companies have cut carbon emissions many times in the last decade. Yellowstone national park puts out more Co2 than many plants. What’s the solution. My biggest problem is when liberals want to jail people who don’t agree with the global warming agenda, when John Kerry says fridges and AC units are a bigger danger than isis it’s all political bs. If they spent the same time and money debating on solutions maybe we could fix it. If they would pass laws to stop people from throwing their garbage of of their cars, boats and any other moving vehicle or stationary one maybe parking lots, roads and water ways would be cleaner. Make companies stop using waterways as toilets would be a good start. But most of what liberals push as global warming is not fact based science. It’s computer models they program to scare people especially young people who think the world won’t be here when they get old. They used communism when I was young and we’re still here. This debt is more dangerous than global warming. Now that should worry anyone of any age. For decades there has been something going on and they jeep changing the name, climate change. Climate cooling global warming climate warming hell I don’t remember it’s changed so much to fit their agenda and what is going on with temperatures.

          17. bobnstuff says:

            I know some of the scientists and I’m afraid I have to disagree with you. Their science is sound. The problem with what they call it doesn’t really lie with the scientist but the press and trying to explain what’s happening to non science people. You also have a disinformation campaign going on funded by the coal industry. Coal is dying even without the push from the left. We don’t mine coal the way we did fifty years ago and out coal power plants are getting old and very out of date. Coal is hard to mine, hard to transport and dirty from beginning to end. Natural gas is cheaper and cleaner so no one is building coal plants. The industry is trying to hold on as long as they can but they know their days are numbered. They try to say that the regulations are costing jobs but in fact the changes in the industry have cost those jobs just like a number of other industries. What once took 300 men working underground to produce how is done by eight men working in pits. The entire coal industry employees 143,000 people at an average wage of $21 per hour.

          18. Worried Vet says:

            I know some scientists who have put our many papers. Gas I better but the alarmist don’t care natural gas isn’t good enough so it has to go. The cost of electricity has gone way up since the epa over stepped now poor people countries who are just now coming into electricity for all will suffer. It’s a proven fact wood burning and coal burning stove kill people early. It’s better to let companies who use cheap fuel to control the pollution than the masses just using wood or coal.

          19. bobnstuff says:

            In the long run solar is the way to go, most of the cost is up front. With in the next ten years it will be the cheapest energy around, Most new power plants are gas. Gas is cheap, clean and easy to transport. There is a lot of it still. Historically electric prices have gone up about 5.5% per year for a very long time. The wholesale price of electricity has been going down for the last six months or so but you won’t see it in your bill. Coal is just a nasty fuel, I live in coal country and have lived near a cool power plant so I have seen first hand just how bad coal is. I know all about burning wood, I went through 4 cord last winter. It’s cheap but a lot of work and mess. In case you haven’t figured out I have given this subject a lot of though.

          20. Worried Vet says:

            National gun control won’t fix any problems. Europe has gun Control laws coming out of their butts. They have open borders with the eu and open to being one people and one nation it’s called globalization. Many countries have had many attacks and many deaths with gun control. People who want to kill and hurt people DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE LAW. It’s not rocket science they will buy guns on the black market. They will use knives, trucks, bombs, airplanes and suicide vests. Are we supposed to outlaw all of these items? It’s an oxymoron to think laws to keep people from buying a gun or ammo will stop a murderer from killing. Do the research there are many more positive gun stories out there, but the liberal media won’t point that out. That would do against their agenda of taking guns away. People who are law-abiding and gun owners have saved many more lives than guns used by killers who break the law. Stop listening to the lies of the media and POTUS, use your own mind. Look for the freaking facts and use common sense not spin and avoiding the facts.

          21. Arizona Don says:

            Progressives democrats (i suspect that includes Bob) will never learn. It is not possible to make the streets safer by taking guns away from law abiding citizens.

            Criminals will not obey the laws. They can write a million new laws and the criminal will still not obey them. It should be possible for them to learn that by rote if nothing else. They do not!


            However, “it is possible” to make the streets safer by allowing more guns in the hands of “law abiding citizens.” The only restriction should be training. That fact is provable by looking at the records of states who have concealed carry without a special permit (second amendment). Just examine the before/after records. But who knows a progressive democrat who believes anything that does not support their opinion? Anyone?

            Concealed carry puts the element of uncertainly regarding who is carrying a weapon and who isn’t relative to open carry. Therefore, it more effectively curtails lawlessness when everyone has the right everyone can be carrying. The criminals are much more leery of perpetrating their crime. The nice thing about concealed carry is NOT everyone need be armed. The unknown element is still there carrying or not.

            The end result the progressives are looking for is gun confiscation. Make no mistake they will not be happy until they reach their goal. Which of course they never will. In other words they will never be happy and will continuously pursue it until somehow they are told to cease and desist.

            Never trust a government (or individual for that matter) that suggests you give up rights “to” government for protections “by” government, it cannot ever happen. Governments respond to the collective while self protection is individual. No one, absolutely no one, can protect you better then you can protect yourself. Furthermore, the constitution is based upon individual rights not collective rights. Communism is based upon collective rights. Individual rights are just one of the things that make America special, different and GREAT.

            It is undeniable America has the most guns of any nation. Far exceeding the next closest nation. Actually even exceeding all militaries in the world combined. Yet we have far fewer gun related deaths as compared to one hundred ten of those other nations on a per capita basis. Considering all the information Bill Whittle exposed here why is there so much attention given to the gun and not the person holding the gun? In a nation as large as the United States of America it should be common knowledge all the guns can ‘never’ ever be confiscated. Never! Imposing any such law will only create a black market (underground) distribution of fire arms.

            Under the current administrations release of harden criminals from the penal institutions all crime has increased. Intentionally? What else can be expected when tens of thousands of criminals are released from the prisons. We wonder why is crime suddenly increasing is it the guns? No it is a lawless person with the authority to pardon and release criminals back onto the streets. It is not the law abiding citizens the fact there are more guns now or anything even related to guns. It is the criminal element has increased under obama. Until America begins to attack gun related crime in the large cities listed by Bill Whittle here and controlling the street gangs (some legal and many illegal nothing will change regardless of restrictive gun laws.

            So if we can see the actual problem what must we do to stop these terrible murders? The solution is obvious to everyone it seems except the democrats who are currently in charge of the government. Punish the law breakers and not the law abiding citizen by eliminating a bill of rights amendment. The second amendment has for over 240 years helped to secure the nation and it can and must be left intact. It is said there are over 10,000 restrictive gun laws on the books right now in all fifty states. All are unconstitutional at least. The current administration and hillary desires to confiscate all guns. That however, would and will destroy the American constitution and assist the slide into the communistic abyss proposed by the current president and the democratic candidate for president, hillary clinton.

            The coming danger to the constitution however, in the up coming election, is not in its being amended to eliminate the second amendment, or any other amendment, it is instead the new supreme court judges who will and can reinterpret the meaning of many of the amendments within the bill of rights and constitution. We as Americans must move forward with extreme caution. Or lose our constitution and with it goes our individual rights. It will start with the guns and the second amendment. Next will be the first, the fourth and tenth will follow rapidly once the second is gone.

            If hillary is elected in November there will be no peaceful revolution. It will be impossible. Americans will not be forced to accept a progressive communistic nation. And her continued transformation will lead to war. The only reason it has not so far is the hold out for a possible peaceful revolution. We will NOT relinquish our guns.

          22. Worried Vet says:

            I’m not sure what your reading but my opening line says national gun control won’t fix any problems. O couldn’t be farther from being a progressive than any conservative on here. Progressives and liberals have ruined this country and if we don’t unite and stop them they will destroy this country.

          23. bobnstuff says:

            We have the highest number of gun deaths per capita of any of the developed nations
            I’m not one of those people who want to get ride of every gun in the country, I would hate to give up mine but I also know that a gun doesn’t make you safe and there is no logic in how we deal with them.

          24. Arizona Don says:

            I mentioned you in my reply to Worried Vet you may like to read. Have a nice day!

          25. Rodney Steward says:

            The NRA is our best line of defense against the freedom grabbers like Obama and Hellary, Bloomberg, and the list of trash goes on and on, it’s FOR CONTROL, look at Europe, no guns, and well armed muslims, now how are these gun laws working! The bad guys are going to have guns period, while the good people pay the price, this is the NRA AT work for us!!

          26. As an Army vet myself, I just rejoined the NRA after many years of absence. I figured that as small as my influence may be, every little bit helps.

          27. Rodney Steward says:

            Great deal friend, I’m a life time member myself and try to seed a little money to them every couple of months! They’re the one that are keeping our guns!!

          28. Arizona Don says:

            Do you realize you quoted the preamble to the constitution a few posts up. The first ten amendments are referred to as the Bill of Rights for a reason. Every amendment is vital to America being America. However, without the second amendment by now there would be no constitution left. Perhaps no nation as well. The primary reason for the second amendment is to protect against a tyrannical government. Under obama we are rapidly moving in that direction if we are not already there. That will certainly continue if not get worse under hillary.

            obama ignores laws and so do many of his supporters. Consequently, the crime rates are going up the last several months. However, crime rates have been going down steadily since the mid 90’s. Gun sales are up and crime is down even now. Many states have passed laws allowing constitutional concealed carry. The result of that is criminals no longer know who is armed and who isn’t. That in itself brings crime down because the criminal risk goes up.

            The right to self protect is a God given right only guaranteed by this government THAT it can never be “infringed.” Yet government itself infringes. Because of the wording of the second amendment restrictions are unconstitutional. Restricting guns enhances crime. That cannot be denied.

            The problem for the gun grabbers is they forget one thing. They can pass a law so it is in someway legal to confiscate all guns however, that still does not mean the American armed citizen will comply with such a law. So using such an approach to curtail crime (which is not possible) will actually cause more. “Restricting” guns farther is not the answer. It never will or can be.

          29. bobnstuff says:

            At what point in history did the right to bare arms keep our country together? The idea that the second amendment meant everyone gets guns is only a little over half a century old. Please study the history of the second amendment. More guns in fewer hands does not make use safer, As gun ownership dropped so did the crime rate for years. If gun ownership made you safer why are the states with high gun ownership not the safest in the country? If guns make us safe then Chicago should be very safe since they have lots of guns. By your way of thinking all those guns in Chicago should be legal since the government shouldn’t stop people from owning guns. Don’t the gang members have the right to bare arms?

            You do know the the president is allowed to use EO’s to run the country and that it is in his power to decide how he is going to enforce the laws. Last, if God gives us the right to own guns why did he not give it to all nations of the world since we are one of the few with unlimited gun rights?

          30. Worried Vet says:

            POTUS is supposed to enforce the laws not make new laws or bend them to fit his agenda. Gun laws have never saved a life if a murderer wants to kill. If their willing to kill then getting guns illegally won’t matter to them. I just don’t see how liberals don’t get that.

          31. bobnstuff says:

            So your answer is to just except the body count. Why bother to try to fix the problem. Auto deaths used to out number gun deaths two to one but we decided that this wasn’t a good thing and started working on fixing the problem. Now the auto deaths are about the same as gun deaths. You are wrong about gun laws not saving lives if a murder wants to kill you, A person has to wait to get a gun and this gives them a chance to think about what they are doing. It’s a lot harder to kill someone without using a gun. When was the last time you heard of a drive by knifing.

          32. Worried Vet says:

            Do you know anything about Chicago? How many gun deaths since Obama took office? How many have been prevented in a city and state that has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Even if they passed a law to outlaw every gun in the state it won’t slow down the shooting and deaths. The numbers are proof enough. There is no good reason to confiscate guns, only bad ones. You talk about auto accident, have you driven in Houston or low LA. The cars go faster easier and drivers are so busy and in a hurry people die almost every day. Texting may cause as many deaths as guns do we outlaw cell phones? I have seen the knee jerk reaction of passing gun laws with no positive results. Even where texting and talking on cell phones have not helped much as far as wrecks go. There is no good reason to take guns away, only bad reasons for bad people. Hitler took guns in the 30s how did that work out?

          33. bobnstuff says:

            You know that those Chicago gun laws are no more having been repealed in 2013 and that the problem was guns coming in from the suburbs and from other states. As long as gun laws are local they will never work. they took 60,000 illegal guns of the streets last year. It’s illegal to text while driving in most states and cell phone use while driving is band in many states. Oh and Hitler did not take the guns away from everyone, only from the Jews,

            “So did Hitler and the Nazis really take away Germans’ guns, making the Holocaust unavoidable? This argument is superficially true at best, as
            University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explained in a 2004 paper (PDF) on Nazi Germany’s impact on the American culture wars. As World
            War I drew to a close, the new Weimar Republic government banned nearly all private gun ownership to comply with the Treaty of Versailles and mandated that all guns and ammunition “be surrendered immediately.” The law was loosened in 1928, and gun permits were granted to citizens “of undoubted reliability” (in the law’s words) but not “persons who are itinerant like Gypsies.” In 1938, under Nazi rule, gun laws became significantly more relaxed. Rifle and shotgun possession were deregulated, and gun access for hunters, Nazi Party members, and
            government officials was expanded. The legal age to own a gun was lowered. Jews, however, were prohibited from owning firearms and other
            dangerous weapons.”

          34. Rodney Steward says:

            Like the law, they can’t be there at that moment U need them when someone is about to blow your head off, And I know about the Gov. roll, they do as ordered, I spent 12 years in the military, and the oath I took! And Who’s talking about a weapon that kills 100 people a minute, that the military would love to have! A weapon for PROTECTION, and 3rd Amendment, No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law!!

          35. bobnstuff says:

            Most semi automatics with thirty round clips can shoot more the 100 rounds per minute. These are the things they are trying to control. If you think these are defenses weapons you are not think very well. If someone is coming into your home you don’t want a long gun, you want a twelve gauge. Long guns are not good close up. We need an overhaul of our gun laws just like a number of other laws. Gun owners need to be held responsible for their guns. We need to find away to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them. I don’t want to lose my rifles any more then you do but if the problem isn’t dealt with by those who understand guns those who think taking them away will get their way. Groups like the NRA do more damage then good in the long run. To many people are dying by being shot. The gun owners need to find a way to cut those numbers.

          36. Rodney Steward says:

            They’re coming out with magazines for pistols that hold 20 RDS, what’s the difference at close range!! We don’t need to overhaul anything, just enforce what’s on the books! The problem with the gun violence is the black gangs, thugs, that the #1 problem!! We right now have the lowest gun crime in since the 20’s and 30’s, FACTS, it was on the FBI report last week on FOX NEWS! But the Dems. want this kept quite from the uninformed public! And I know all about Semi-auto and full auto weapons! The M-16 was a wonderful weapon in the military!

          37. bobnstuff says:

            Give me an M1 Grand any day. My question is why do you need so many shots, One shot kills. As I said if you want to defend yourself a twelve gauge is the way to go. We have one of the lowest percentage of gun ownership in history. More guns less owners. I disagree about the gun laws not needing fixed. Right now your crazy Uncle Ed can get a gun even if everyone knows he’s crazy. The felon down the road can get his neighbor to buy him a gun and then sell it to him. I can get just about any type of gun I want today with no waiting because I know a guy who is always buying and selling guns, he is a so called collector. As far as enforcing the laws on the books, they are the first ones dropped by the DA in our country. My point is that the gun owners need to get some common sense laws together and pass them before the uninformed gun haters fined a way to take all guns away. At one time the NRA would be working on this but now all they want is to sell more guns for there sager daddy the gun manufactures.

          38. Rodney Steward says:

            People like Obama, Hellary, Bloomberg, Feinstein are selling the guns with their stupidity and lust for power, If ever a time should come when evil, vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of it’s experienced patriots to prevent it’s ruin: Samuel Adams. And U could never be so wrong about the NWO, It will be a handful of people that will have the control, ever watch the Hunger Games, notice the camps they live in, we call them FEMA CAMPS here! This is what Hellary’s foundation is for!!!

          39. disqus_CeZmTpgh9W says:

            Let’s see, a gun with a thirty round magazine can shoot 100 rounds a minute? You must be the world’s record holder at changing magazines! Oh yeah, lets blame the NRA for radical muslims. Please take your medications as you are hallucinating again!

          40. bobnstuff says:

            I guess you don’t really know much about guns, With a magazine you can reload very fast so it’s how fast is your finger.
            The NRA didn’t create Radical Muslim’s, they just made sure they had nice guns.

          41. disqus_CeZmTpgh9W says:

            I apparently know more about guns than you do if you think firing 600 rounds a minute is possible with a thirty round magazine!
            The NRA armed radical muslims? Since when did the NRA hand out AK47’s to radical mslims???

          42. bobnstuff says:

            I never said 600 rounds per minute, 90 to 100 is very do able. The NRA and their friends blocked the law stopping people on the no fly list from buying guns.

          43. Worried Vet says:

            Gun control isn’t it. Gang prevention, mental health prevention, ptsd help for all vets and that help asap not on a wait list for weeks. Border control stopping guns and drugs as much as possible from coming Here. Declare war on Isis so we can root them out of their pits and our country. Stop the PC crap that is costing lives like the Orlando shooting. The FBI had at least 3 warnings that murderer was up to something. If the FBI or that man’s place of employment had not been so worried about being PC maybe lives would have been saved. Make laws very strict for anyone caught with an illegal gun. Global warming is a farce. There is no real scientific proof, only models with information put in by very biased humans. If they keep making people believe Co2 gases are destroying the planet , what’s the fix cull the population since humans are the biggest offenders. Science shows us plants put out oxygen after changing from Co2 so we poor humans can breathe. If they want to help pollution then stop companies that dump in the water ways and the ground. If these companies are caught the first time a fine of twice their revenue second time the government shuts them down period no more chances. To stop the average person from polluting, make littering a huge fine the first time like Canada does. The second time caught a fine and maybe 10 days in jail. I bet you wouldn’t see so much garbage on the highways and parking lots. Throwing trash in any water ways the same thing. People in this country are pigs and just lazy. I ran a nice hotel and had huge garbage cans everywhere. Every day trash, garbage ashtrays and food was all over my parking lot. Now in most cases there was a can no more than five feet from where their car was parked. They were to lazy to get out of their car and go use the trash can. It’s just disgusting. Wake up for your own sake.

          44. disqus_CeZmTpgh9W says:

            You are delusional. But just for grins, please tell the rest of us what gun can kill one hundred people a minute?

          45. disqus_CeZmTpgh9W says:

            Please let me know what gun can kill 100 people a minute????
            Oh by the way, you seemed to have forgotten
            “The right of the people to krrp and bear arms shall NOT be infringed”

          46. bobnstuff says:

            Here are videos for you. I notice you don’t have problems with the violation of any other amendments, just the second. Do you defend voters rights or freedom of speech the same way? How about the idea that if you are born here you are a citizen.

      3. SDofAZ says:

        Dem wit dem lemming without a doubt. Your posts are so boring bob!

        1. bobnstuff says:

          It’s not my problem that you are so easy to bore. Maybe if I wrote it in crayon you would like it better.

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