Republican Shadow Campaign for 2020 Takes Shape as Trump Doubts Grow

August 6, 2017

WASHINGTON — Senators Tom Cotton and Ben Sasse have already been to Iowa this year, Gov. John Kasich is eyeing a return visit to New Hampshire, and Mike Pence’s schedule is so full of political events that Republicans joke that he is acting more like a second-term vice president hoping to clear the field than a No. 2 sworn in a little over six months ago.

President Trump’s first term is ostensibly just warming up, but luminaries in his own party have begun what amounts to a shadow campaign for 2020 — as if the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue weren’t involved.

The would-be candidates are cultivating some of the party’s most prominent donors, courting conservative interest groups and carefully enhancing their profiles. Mr. Trump has given no indication that he will decline to seek a second term.

But the sheer disarray surrounding this presidency, the intensifying investigation by the special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and the plain uncertainty about what Mr. Trump will do in the next week, let alone in the next election, have prompted Republican officeholders to take political steps that are unheard-of so soon into a new administration.

85 Comments - what are your thoughts?

  • chocopot says:

    Does anyone really believe that the Dems and the media – but I repeat myself – would be treating, or in the future will treat, any other Republican candidate or President any differently?

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  • Original Anna says:

    Listen President Trump as we should be calling him hasn’t had a year in yet, and he has been battling not just the democrats but republican traitors too. Why republicans because they are not in it for the people who voted them in, they are just like the democrats in it for themselves and that 3.5 million home in a gated community that the older republicans and democrats now have. And also that little retirement bundle they want, not making changes the people need but getting what the politicians want for themselves. The future hope, this baloney is no longer hidden from us, it is coming out and we are now seeing just who are traitors to the American people and who aren’t traitors. The fact that the corruption is so huge and engrained into our gov’t has really stunned me. We have to stick with President Trump and give him time to find the good guys so he can get rid of the bad guys. It is not going to be easy and quick because the corruption is so huge. I am beginning to think our U.S. gov’t corruption is worst than Russia and the worst dictatorship in our world. Darn, really.

    1. Rodney Steward says:

      I totally agree!!

      1. Original Anna says:

        Well, at least there are souls out there who think like I do, good. Nice to meet you, Rodney Steward.

        1. Rodney Steward says:

          It took 8 years of a mad man to expose the real side of the Gov. and open MANY EYES, now with Trump exposing them even more, the “System” can’t handle it and is why so many don’t like him and it’s both sides!! Nice to meet you also Original Anna!! 🙂

          1. Original Anna says:

            It floors me that there is so that Obama got away with and I am afraid that President Trump may not hang in there or have enough time to get rid of the crappy people who unbelievably are so anti American, where in God’s name did these people born here come from. Just complaining because I think I have your ear. Have a nice night Rodney Steward.

          2. Rodney Steward says:

            Good to hear from you Anna, and you’re right, what worries me is the dirty work of Mueller and the rest of his FBI gang of Dem. thugs that act just like everything Obama would do, Illegal!! You have a great night my friend!! 🙂

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  • Rodney Steward says:

    I’ve lost all trust for our FBI and CIA that no longer serve our country for the good, but now have, like most all politicians have sold their souls to the Devil !! John Kasich that took more money from Soros than all the rest can FORGET running for President, was also one of the never Trumper thugs! I really hope Trump runs again but like a friend told me, a big Dem. was to make his life so miserable he wouldn’t run again, and it may be the case! It’s plain and simple, Trump has hurt the plans and stepped on toes of the whole system that’s all in on the UN/EU NWO Game of (THONGS)! Pence is a good man, but a yes man and will not be the leader Trump is and could really be, but the System won’t allow it and don’t want his USA FIRST in their game plan!! For the first time in my life I finally see the system for what it really is, ONE BIG CON GAME!!

    1. Anouk says:

      You are so right Rodney the system is ONE BIG CON GAME.
      Our beautiful America is in the hands of criminal like Soros, Clintons, Obama and so many other enemies of the Constitution.
      It is very scary indeed.

      1. Rodney Steward says:

        Makes a person sick at their stomach, does me!!

  • roboteq says:

    I would have nothing against a Republican agenda of riding President Trump’s successes to getting someone like Pence into the presidency. As long as President Trump is in on such an agenda, that is. If the plan was to get into the White House via Donald Trump, then take over after four or eight years, I am all for it. I just don’t trust the RNC enough to believe that is a plan.

  • gvette says:

    Kasich eyeing a return. Well, he”s got Soros money to do it.

    1. bobnstuff says:

      He is the parties best hope to get under control. He is a moderate Republican. He is from a swing state, pro life without being stupid, understand the budget. He could pull the country together. I guess that’s why you don’t like him.

      1. gvette says:

        Keep telling yourself that lie, Bob. He’s bought and paid for by Soros! Like your pal Killary was. Most in Ohio don’t like him!

        1. bobnstuff says:

          I know you like your guys bought and paid for by Russia and the Koch Bro. You don’t even know who Soros is. He’s just a name you use. As far as Ohio goes, 57% approval for Kasich,

          Trump is doing 47% in Ohio.

          1. gvette says:

            Those links you post, are as worthless as you are, Bob. Trump IS the president, and Killary is gone!

          2. bobnstuff says:

            Who cares about Clinton? Trump is president and he is proving everything everyone said about him. Even his own party doesn’t support him.

          3. gvette says:

            As always Bob, you’re an idiot. Trump is an outsider, accomplishing more then your nigger did in 8 years. The left, and right nor liking him wasn’t matter much.

          4. bobnstuff says:

            Let’s see, he had power taken away by the congress, lost the leadership of the free world. Tried to take health insurance from 20 million people and failed. His greatest achievement is his golf game and he cheats at that.

          5. gvette says:

            LMAO…you still think Onigger care works. It’s imploding as we type, and has been. The insurance companys are dropping out fast. There are areas now that can’t get coverage. Remember, It was supposed to fail, then when your pal Killary got elected, she could institute single payer. Once again, why do you need government in your business. Because you’re to stupid to do things on your own. Hitler, your other buddy instituted government run healthcare shortly after getting in power.

          6. bobnstuff says:

            Have you seen Trumps great plan for healthcare? The one he talked about all through the campaign. It’s going to be great, healthcare for everyone at a lower cost. Everyone wins under Trumpcare. You know the plan right? Oh wait it was just a lie on Trumps part, he had no plan. Trump is looking out for everyone, let healthcare fail is his present plan, it doesn’t matter that people lives are involved. I see you really need Clinton because in fact you can’t defend your great and powerful leader. Do you remember when Trump came out for a single payer system?

          7. gvette says:

            Obama care is about dead, Bob. Why is it you don’t don’t understand that? As for Killary, she’d a been Onigger on steroids! The country is doing better now, then in the 8 years of gay Barry. Let’s remember GDP growth under Barry.

            We have the final nail in the coffin of President Obama’s economic reign. Not only is the average annual growth rate of just 1.48% during Obama’s business cycle the weakest of any expansion since at least 1949, he has just become the only President to have not had even one year of 3% GDP growth.

            An average annual GDP growth of 1.48% during Obama’s two terms…
            I know you hate facts Bob!

          8. bobnstuff says:

            So tell me about that jobs bill Trump talked about, how about the infrastructure program. How is that coming? His tax reform plan is a list, one page long and also going nowhere. Tell me again all the things Trump has done to grow the economy. So far everything that has happened was because of things put in place by the last president. Trump hasn’t had a budget yet, has in fact done very little. Sorry to break you dreams. As far as the ACA being dead I think you should know a few things. The market place is not the only part of the ACA and so far it’s the only part that’s in trouble and Trump doesn’t seem to care and is powerless to do anything about the problem. Your hero us about as useless as his followers.

          9. gvette says:

            You fucking DemonRATs. You need a jobs bill. You can’t do anything without the government, can you.
            By the way, 209,000 thousand jobs in July!
            He’s trying to get the corporate tax lowered, but congress just wants to obstruct. Remember, we have the third highest corporate tax rate in the world.
            As for the budget, It’s still early. Remember, under Onigger, there was never a budget. I guess you forgot that. I remember Nancy Pelosi saying “we don’t need no budget”.
            Here’s another interesting fact.


          10. K.A. says:

            Stop responding to this simpleton, you are wasting your time! He’s the epitome of a liberal…he’s part of the “effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals!”

          11. gvette says:

            You are correct, in your assessment. One thing about the left, you can’t shame them with facts. Sometimes it’s just amusement.
            Enjoy your day!!!

          12. bobnstuff says:

            209,000 jobs. How exciting. Isn’t that about average for the last 8 years? He is trying but going nowhere because no one trust, respects or will follow him. Faces it your leader is leading no one nowhere. As far as your story about highest corporate tax you should check your facts since no one acutely pays that rate.

            “Bolling said the United States has “the highest corporate tax rate in the free world.” He was referring to the statutory rate, meaning the rate before deductions. On that score, he’s right: The United States does have the highest statutory rate among developed countries. However, the United States’ corporate tax rate doesn’t appear to be the highest
            once deductions and other exclusions are taken into account.”

            Trump is right that the system needs reformed. The problem is he is as clueless about this as everything else when it comes to how to do it. Talk is cheep and without a plan Trump talk is worthless.

          13. gvette says:

            LMAO…stop with the so far to right politifact. They are as much of a joke as you are. The other is snopes, that by the looks, is going bankrupt.

          14. bobnstuff says:

            Since I didn’t use Snopes as a source it really doesn’t matter. Politifact is respected by a very wide range of people including Fox News that use them as sources from time to time. Once again you don’t know what your are talking about. They are doing very nicely and going nowhere. The facts don’t change though. Because of the tax code no one actually pay the top rate and in fact our tax rate isn’t much different then any other country. Trump is right about the tax code needing fixed so everyone pays their far share. The problem is Trump for some reason can’t seem to get what he wants onto paper and send it to congress. You can’t be a leader if your followers don’t know where to go or what you want. Trump is the man without a plan.

          15. gvette says:

            LMAO…the left, and the right don’t like him, but he is still doing more then your muslim ever did. Give me that long list of things Barry accomplished, besides doubling the debt, more people on food stamps, and the lowest worker participation since the middle seventys.

          16. bobnstuff says:

            You are right, he is playing golf once again, just what the country needs, a golf pro. So tell me what action has Trump done to get people off food stamps? What has he done about the debt? He sure seems to talk a lot about spending money and little about where it’s coming from. He wants to cut taxes and increase spending.

          17. Rodney Steward says:

            Just here in my state we’ve cut food stamps by almost 2 thirds, now that’s A LOT!! Mostly by drug test and doing community service work and checking their income!

          18. bobnstuff says:

            You must live in the State of denial then. Every state that have drug tested have found that it costs more to do the tests then they save. Also what does Trump have to do with it anyway? Food stamps are a state run program, federally funded but run by the state.

          19. Rodney Steward says:

            I guess because over half were illegal mexicans!!

          20. bobnstuff says:

            Why was your state giving food stamps to illegals? You should be very unhappy with your state government. Funny in Pa. you need a SS number to get food stamps. What’s wrong with your state.

          21. Rodney Steward says:

            OBAMA’S BS, they were forced to!! They didn’t have to have a SS card just a card from the Gov. that was handed out like candy by the Opey tribe!

          22. bobnstuff says:

            You sure do like to tell fibs don’t you. Your state government set the rules. Also why was your state giving ID to illegal that would let them get benefits. It’s the state that controls their ID’s also. Don’t try to blame the feds for your states wrong doing.

          23. Rodney Steward says:

            The GOV. gave them their cards and placed them here, just like in a lot of states they gave out Drivers License so they could vote! But they didn’t vote here PERIOD! My sister is over the Wick Program in 4 counties and she wanted to know where the cards come from for food stamps and it was by the Opey clan!! FACT, and they were basically forced to honor it for 2 years!!

          24. bobnstuff says:

            BS alarm is going off big time. If the government placed them there and gave them ID then they have legal statics, most likely waiting for the courts to hear their case. Also those ID’s should not let them vote, it they do that’s also your states fault. Elections are run by the states not the feds. They were forced to honor them because it was the governments fault they were there. Ask you sister who her boss is and who she works for. It’s not the Feds. In Pa WICK is run but the counties and each have their own set of rules.

          25. Rodney Steward says:

            It’s run by the state, and you don’t remember when the Opey clan was busing this trash around just like the muslims and dropping them off in different parts of the country!! Well, Sessions from my state put a stop to it!! This bullshi$ happened bobby!

          26. bobnstuff says:

            You mean those buses with the kids in them. I’m sure they let children vote in your state. Don’t blame Obama for those kids, he asked to have the law changed so he could turn them around at the border but the republicans said no. That law that was passed under Bush.

          27. Rodney Steward says:

            It wasn’t just kids bobby, it had their families too, and what you said about Obama turning the around at the border was a LIE, he NEVER DID NO SUCH THING!! His goal was to infest this country with all this trash, both mexicans and muslims! HEll, just look at all the MS-13 garbage he’s trying to get rid of, that was part of the Southern border trash he wanted to come here!

          28. bobnstuff says:

            Go check the record. Obama went to congress for help and instead they went on vacation. Every time Obama or the Democrats tried to fix the borders the Republicans block it.

          29. Rodney Steward says:

            That was good, but did you read the whole thing?? No wonder they would pass it!!

          30. bobnstuff says:

            Yes, did you? I picked the most anti Obama sight I could find and they still said that the republicans blocked help.

          31. Rodney Steward says:

            OK bobby I’m not going to argue over the shi$ no more tonight, and you did do a great job, but Obama and his clan is going to pay for their Un-American acts, all I ask is just wait and see!! Good Night friend!! 🙂

          32. Rodney Steward says:

            You do know Opey the brown clown does hold the golf course record at this time!!

          33. bobnstuff says:

            Sorry but not even close.
            “The U.S. President who played the most golf is actually Woodrow Wilson, who played an estimated, 1,200 rounds of golf while in office from 1913-21. That beats second-place President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who had
            a tree named for him at Augusta National Golf Club where he was a member and went 29 times as Commander-in-Chief, who played more than 800
            rounds of golf in office from 1953-61.”
            Obama played 333 rounds, Trump is a third of the way there in just 6 months. Trump is on line to beat Eisenhower but I fear he will come in second to Wilson, even in playing golf he can be number one.

          34. gvette says:

            * The US Stock Market gained $2 trillion in wealth since Trump was elected!

            * The S&P 500 broke $20 Trillion for the first time in its history.

            President Trump decreased the US Debt in his first 100 days by $100 Billion. (President Obama increased the US debt in his first 100 days by more than $560 Billion.)

            The US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high in this period which were the best numbers since 1983 under President Reagan.

            President Trump added 298,000 jobs in his first month alone (after President Obama said jobs were not coming back!).

            Housing sales are red-hot. In 2011, houses for sale were on the market an average 84 days. This year, it’s just 45 days.

            Illegal immigration is down 67% since President Trump’s Inauguration.

            NATO announced Allied spending is up $10 Billion because of President Trump.

            After being nominated by President Trump, Constitutionalist Judge Neil Gorsuch was confirmed and sworn in as Supreme Court Justice in early April.

            * Notifying Congress of a strike on Syria after it was reported that the country used gas on its citizens.

            * Dismantling Obama’s climate change initiatives.

            * Travel bans for individuals from a select number of countries embroiled in terrorist atrocities.

            * Enforcing regulatory reform.

            * Protecting Law enforcement.

            * Mandating for every new regulation to eliminate two.

            * Defeating ISIS.

            * Rebuilding the military.

            * Building a border wall.

            * Cutting funding for sanctuary cities.

            * Approving pipelines.

            * Reducing regulations on manufacturers.

            * Placing a hiring freeze on federal employees.

            * Exiting the US from the TPP.

          35. bobnstuff says:

            So tell me what act of magic Trump used to create those jobs and why didn’t he keep doing in in March when we only added 98,000 jobs. Also just what did he do to save $100 billion dollars. You will believe just about anything won’t you. Obama signed a bill to save the US economy, what has Trump signed? Now tell me how Trump defeated ISIS. Your list is a wish list that most hasn’t happened and will in some cases never happen. As of to day there is no wall, in fact it will now be a fence, no new protection for law enforcement, the military rebuild was well underway before he got there. You really need to get into the real world and start seeing the truth because believing all those lies will and I fear has rotted your brain. Oh and you know that pipe line, even the people in Canada who will be using it don’t think it’s really needed and it’s not being built with American steel. Also isn’t it funny that the business community supported the TPP and by dropping out it hurt our country.

          36. gvette says:

            Partial in part to getting rid of Oniggers job, and business crushing regulations. As for the pipe line, the pipe was already bought. The business community is looking for the cheapest way to manufacture. They want to get out. Trump has only been in office 8 months. It took your Musilm 8 years to destroy our economy! I need to remind you.

            we have the final nail in the coffin of President Obama’s economic reign. Not only is the average annual growth rate of just 1.48% during Obama’s business cycle the weakest of any expansion since at least 1949, he has just become the only President to have not had even one year of 3% GDP growth.

            An average annual GDP growth of 1.48% during Obama’s two terms…

          37. bobnstuff says:

            What 3% GDP growth, he hasn’t hit that mark yet. 1.2% for the first Quarter and 2.6% for his second Quarter. Forecasts for the next two Quarters do not come close to 3%. He will be lucky to get 2% total for the year.

          38. gvette says:

   think you can fix the disaster of Onigger in 8 months? You’re a fucking joke, Bob!

          39. bobnstuff says:

            You are the one lying about the GDP growth. Right now he’s doing no better then Obama and he came into a economy with a record growth period. Face it Trump is in over his head, without the party supporting him and no real plan on how to get anything done.

            Have you looked at his budget, not that it makes any difference since it will be DOA but it’s a great piece of fiction never the less.
            If you know how to reed it there are some amazing things in it. Great fun. Very creative.

          40. gvette says:

            What growth rate? In the last of the Muslim, it was never good. I gave you the numbers. I know you hate them, but your nigger was a disaster.
            Be careful using the word budget. In the 8 years of gay boy, we never had a budget. Nancy Pelosi , another one of you heros said, “we don’t need no budget”. You do know by law, every form of government has to have a budget in place. Like I said Bob, he’s only been in 8 months. It will take time to fix the mess Omuslim made.

          41. bobnstuff says:

            I guess you don’t know how to read or something. I was in all the papers. After the end of Obama’s first year and from then on he had annual growth without a miss and only on quarter that was down. Trumps first Quarter was the worst in years. Right now Trump is sitting on a 1.7% growth.

          42. Rodney Steward says:

            Can’t get anything done with the Clinton FBI thugs making up shi$ on him and his family! The only problem Trump has, he don’t have that big fat race card in his pocket like the whole black Obama tribe did, and are now trying to use it now that they are getting caught up with one by one!!

          43. bobnstuff says:

            I guess those emails from Trump Jr and the Russians were made up. Are you calling Jr Trump a liar? The Trumps campaign has been shown to have a lot of contact with the Russians, they keep having to own up to it. Tell me again why the AG pulled himself off the case.

          44. Rodney Steward says:

            Trump Jr. isn’t on his staff!

          45. bobnstuff says:

            Be his son in law was and he was at the meeting. Trump Sr. even penned the cover up story. The AG was working on the campaign and he has admitted he lied to congress about his contacts.

          46. Rodney Steward says:

            I’ve not heard that, my God, the way the news is it would be all over the place! The only thing that’s been said is nothing has been found, if there is it’ll be planted or framed by Mueller and his bathroom lover Comey and his Clinton gang!

          47. Rodney Steward says:

            I never waist my time with cnn. bs, but I do FOX! Yes I remember that, it was a set u by that Russian woman, but don’t recall anyone lying about it no reason too! No one has had more dealings with Russia than the and this is why this is being pushed by the Dems. and Clinton to cover their own butts!

          48. Rodney Steward says:

            Still no lying he was mislead by the Russian woman, and you can’t go by Graham, he was a never Trumper like McCain!

          49. bobnstuff says:

            “But Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., a Trump supporter who has more recently discussed his concern with revelations out of the unfolding Russia investigation, said Trump should not have tried to blur the facts around the meeting.”
            Even his supporters are having problems with this.

          50. Rodney Steward says:

            Here’s some Russian crap for you, http:///… 🙂 🙂

      2. Rodney Steward says:

        He’s another Hellary Clinton, L-O-S-E-R!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        1. bobnstuff says:

          You do have a problem getting over the last election. I guess you wanted Clinton to win deep in what passes as a heart for you folk. The election is OVER, move on to the next one. Just because Trump hasn’t proven to be a very good president is no reason to dwell in the past. Had we elected Kasich things would be very different. You supported a man born with a silver spoon in his mouth who’s view of the world was from the window of a limo instead of a guy who understand what it’s like to work for a living. You were suckered. I very much hope that Kasich runs again, it would be nice to have a real president again.

          1. Rodney Steward says:

            Actually I’d like to see the Clinton’s in the ground and the election went just as I wanted! The system is not for the USA first any more, they’re all in for the NWO game!! We’re all really finished if another Dem. ever takes the White house again!!

          2. bobnstuff says:

            Yes that NWO. I guess that’s the new thing since you can’t blame the commie anymore. Why don’t you think a international businessman isn’t part of your NWO? If I was going to put someone in that group Trump would make more sense then Clinton. After all it’s all about power and money.

      3. Leslie Woodhull says:


        1. Rodney Steward says:


  • Jim Deinzer says:

    Our president Donald Trump does not have the backing of the Republican Party because they also are a big part of The Swamp! We need new blood, we need Men who care more for their country and its people than getting reelected , we need term limits. What we have now are professional politicians. Trump will never succeed since it’s impossible to drain the swamp. If more Americans would realize this the country would succeed but we are too busy playing with our gadgets and watching dancing with the stars, Sadly ,as it looks now we are losing our country and we deserve it since we are so stupid!

  • bobnstuff says:

    Since WW II we have only had one vice presidents elected straight to president and one who became president because of the death and went on to be re-elected. This doesn’t bode well for Pence. His best hope is that he becomes president before 2020. If I was Trump I would beware of The Ides of March. Trump doesn’t have the party behind him, he never has and never will. He ran as an outsider and now he is surprised that he still is an outsider. He will have no more of the support of the republican party in 2020 then he had in 2016. The most telling sign of where Trump stands in the party is when he refers republicans as they not we. Trumps biggest mistake so far is in his trying to be a republican president instead of an American president.

  • Jose says:

    President Trump does NOT need his party for a win in 2020. All he needs is just votes from citizens who believe in him – like me.

  • grandmary42 says:

    I’m so disgusted with the disloyalty of the Rebuplicans! I think President Trump is doing his darndest to help all Americans improve their lives! Why, in God’s name, are they not on board for that?

    1. bobnstuff says:

      Has Trump given his loyalty to the party. How many times has he attacked members of the republican party in public? The big question is, is Trump a real republican or is he just the person who won on their ticket?

      1. Leslie Woodhull says:


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